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Margot Robbie and unmarked motherhood

4/12/202642 min

MONDAY ANALYSIS: This week, a Courier-Mail headline caught our eye: “Margot Robbie, stop pretending you’re not a mum.” What happens when women in the public eye become mothers – but don’t show their kids on camera? With the justified push to take kids off camera, are we creating a world where the actual experience of motherhood is hidden from view as well? Huge thanks to Pandora for making this episode of Shameless possible. Also, shout-out to Samsung!  Margot Robbie, stop pretending you’re not a mum in the Courier Mail Dispatches from Motherhood by Grace O’Neill The Kardashian Whisperer Who Says Three Hours With Her Kids Is Enough in The Wall Street Journal Margot Robbie Is Nobody’s Barbie: The Babylon Star on Navigating Hollywood in Vanity Fair Your hosts are Zara McDonald (@zamcdonald) and Michelle Andrews (@michelleandrews1). Shameless Podcast is produced by Annabelle Lee and Eilish Gilligan, executive-produced by Lucy Hunt and audio-edited by Eilish Gilligan. Our social media team consists of Naima Fatema, Divya Simmie and Eilish Gilligan, and our partnerships manager is Cindy Luu. Want to support our show? Clicking ‘follow’ on Apple and Spotify is the best way to do that, and we're super grateful to anyone who leaves a five-star review while they're at it. Also! An old-fashioned 'Tell a Friend In Real Life' is equally appreciated. Want more? We've got more… Subscribe to our newsletter Smart, Dumb Stuff: https://tinyurl.com/4yasjphn    Follow us on Instagram: https://tinyurl.com/2mf557ux  Aaaand we’re on TikTok: https://tinyurl.com/2hchchrp  Everything else your heart could ever desire is here: https://linktr.ee/shamelesspodcast  Thanks for listening! We’re huge fans of yours. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Clips

Margot’s baby cries on tour
The power of one word
What’s really being projected?
Damned if you do
No right way to mother publicly
Perpetrator or system’s product?
Setting the fiery agenda
When arguments need a face

Transcript preview

First 90 seconds

  1. Zara McDonald· Host0:00

    What is it with men and big TVs?

  2. Michelle Andrews· Host0:02

    Oh. So true. Talk about it. Okay.

  3. Zara McDonald· Host0:05

    Well, we need to raise awareness.

  4. Michelle Andrews· Host0:07

    Zara's moving house. As part of moving house, Zara and Ollie have decided they need a new TV. Ollie- Hold it.

  5. Zara McDonald· Host0:15

    I'm perfectly fine with our old TV.

  6. Michelle Andrews· Host0:16

    Mate, mate, same.

  7. Zara McDonald· Host0:17

    If- Well, I'm fine with your old TV. [laughs] Yeah, you're fine with it.

  8. Michelle Andrews· Host0:20

    I can understand, though, you've had that TV for a long time, so I understand a refresh of the TV. It's a quite... No, no disrespect.

  9. Zara McDonald· Host0:27

    No, say, say it.

  10. Michelle Andrews· Host0:28

    It's a slightly old TV.

  11. Zara McDonald· Host0:29

    It- [laughs] It's complet- It's, it's just small.

  12. Michelle Andrews· Host0:32

    I'm not sure it has the smart capabilities of the modern TV.

  13. Zara McDonald· Host0:35

    [laughs] [laughs] I don't know if it does.

  14. Michelle Andrews· Host0:36

    Like, I don't know if I could screen-share to your TV confidently.

  15. Zara McDonald· Host0:39

    So Ollie's like, "We need 75-inch."

  16. Michelle Andrews· Host0:42

    75 or plus.

  17. Zara McDonald· Host0:43

    And then goes, the, to confirm this, obviously goes to Mitch, who's a huge fan of huge TVs.

  18. Michelle Andrews· Host0:48

    [laughs] Mitch, if it was up to Mitch, Mitch would just have a projector screen in front of his face 24/7.

  19. Zara McDonald· Host0:55

    And I was like, "If Mitch and Michelle..." Sorry, I have to be honest now. "If Mitch and Michelle have a 75-inch, we're not getting it because that TV's the biggest thing I've ever seen in my life."

  20. Michelle Andrews· Host1:02

    [laughs] It's too... Thank you, Zara, it's too fucking big. No, I think ours is 65-inch.

  21. Zara McDonald· Host1:05

    I know. Then you guys came back and said, "65." I said, "We've got issues, babe- [laughs] "... 'cause their TV's the biggest TV I've ever seen in my life."

  22. Michelle Andrews· Host1:10

    [laughs] But our living room, quite small. So the TV does take up way too much real estate. It's too big. I agree with you, Zara.

  23. Zara McDonald· Host1:18

    I- Unfortunately, I lost this war- S- ...

  24. Michelle Andrews· Host1:20

    with Mitch, 'cause I wanted a green armchair, and he said if we're getting the green armchair- 65-inch. It's- Well, I'm now trying to defend my honor for 75-inch.

  25. Zara McDonald· Host1:27

    I want 55-inch.

  26. Michelle Andrews· Host1:28

    The smaller the TV, the chic

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