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Lena Waithe

6/1/20262 hr 1 min

Lena Waithe (The Chi, Queen & Slim, Master of None) is an Emmy-winning writer, producer, actor, and playwright. Lena joins Armchair Expert to discuss being a talkative kid in the South Side of Chicago, discovering television through her grandmother, and realizing she was a writer before the industry knew where to place her. Lena and Dax talk about the changing definition of celebrity, the hard-won evolution of The Chi, and her fairy godmothers in the business. Lena explains how identity can become mistaken for activism, how aging can be a privilege instead of a fear, and why the best conversations require listening instead of assuming.

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  1. Dax Shepard· Host0:00

    Welcome, welcome, welcome to Armchair Expert. I'm Dan Shepherd. I'm joined by Lily Padman. And today we have Lena Waithe.

  2. Monica Padman· Host0:07

    Mm-hmm.

  3. Dax Shepard· Host0:08

    Oh, I love Lena Waithe. She's an actor, a producer, and a screenwriter. She created The Chi. She was on Master of None.

  4. Monica Padman· Host0:15

    Ugh, we loved that show.

  5. Dax Shepard· Host0:16

    Yes. Queen & Slim, Boomerang, Them. This is the final season of The Chi, uh, now streaming on Paramount+. You know Lena, you're gonna really fall in love with her if you've never heard her chat. She's just as sweet and wonderful as they get.

  6. Monica Padman· Host0:32

    That's right.

  7. Dax Shepard· Host0:33

    Yeah. Please enjoy Lena Waithe. This podcast is brought to you by Squarespace. I feel like spring always does this thing where you realize you've been thinking about something for a long time, and suddenly it feels like, okay, maybe I actually do something with it.

  8. Monica Padman· Host0:47

    Totally. It's less pressure, but more like readiness.

  9. Dax Shepard· Host0:50

    Yeah, like you've been sitting on an idea or a project or even just a perspective you care about, and now you're like, "Maybe this deserves to exist somewhere outside of my own head."

  10. Monica Padman· Host0:58

    And May being Mental Health Awareness Month, there's already this broader conversation happening. People are more open, more curious, more willing to engage.

  11. Dax Shepard· Host1:05

    Which is where something like Squarespace comes in. It makes that jump from idea to actual thing feel way less overwhelming. You can build a site that looks good, works well, and actually reflects what you're trying to put out there.

  12. Monica Padman· Host1:18

    And it's not just hypothetical. Wabi Wab literally used Squarespace to build our site.

  13. Dax Shepard· Host1:22

    Yeah, and Wabi Wab is not trying to spend 40 hours figuring out web design. It just worked.

  14. Monica Padman· Host1:27

    Which is kind of the point.

  15. Dax Shepard· Host1:29

    So if you've been sitting

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