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Kamala, 2028

7/11/202629 min

The former vice president’s loyal base seems ready for another go, but Democratic donors are wary. 

This show was edited by Kasia Broussalian, fact checked by Sarah Schweppe, mixed by Shannon Mahoney, video edited by Christopher Snyder, and hosted by Astead Herndon.

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Clips

Bye Bye Bye Biden
Can Black Woman Win?
Afraid to Say No
No Appetite for Harris
Never a Woman President

Transcript preview

First 90 seconds

  1. Astead Herndon· Host0:00

    I'm gonna let you in on a little political secret, maybe the worst kept secret in national politics. Former Vice President Kamala Harris is considering a comeback and thinking about running for president in 2028.

  2. Speaker 20:11

    I might. [cheering] I'm thinking about it.

  3. Astead Herndon· Host0:14

    She went on a book tour through important Democratic primary states. She's chatting with Zohra Mamdani, and she's dialing up pro-Palestinian activists to gauge their level of interest. Most importantly, though, she's leading the polls, beating out big names like California's Gavin Newsom and New York's AOC. But I covered Harris' first two presidential runs in 2019 and also in 2024, so I know that the idea of Harris the candidate is sometimes better than the reality. So I have a question: Does anybody actually want the Kamala Harris comeback to happen? I called up Democratic insiders to get their take.

  4. Speaker 30:53

    Hi, you've reached the voicemail of Megan Lee.

  5. Astead Herndon· Host0:55

    And I got the voicemail.

  6. Speaker 30:56

    Hi, I'm not- The person you're trying to reach is not available.

  7. Astead Herndon· Host0:59

    Let's try somebody else.

  8. Speaker 31:00

    Your call has been forwarded to voicemail. [beep] At the tone, please record your message.

  9. Astead Herndon· Host1:07

    Oh, you know, a lot of journalism is just voicemails. Oh, I'm getting a call back.

  10. Speaker 31:13

    Hey, Seth.

  11. Astead Herndon· Host1:14

    Hey, how are you? This Alex?

  12. Speaker 41:16

    I thought you were my Uber driver trying to get to the airport.

  13. Astead Herndon· Host1:19

    I also talked to donors.

  14. John Morgan· Guest1:20

    Everything that happened has left a bad taste, and we need a fresh start.

  15. Astead Herndon· Host1:26

    And of course, the voters.

  16. Speaker 61:28

    Absolutely, I think Kamala Harris

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