Jennifer Riria, banking chief: Financial system still excludes women
5/21/202624 min
“Most of Africa is rural, and although urbanisation is taking root now, the systems that deliver financial services to women are still eluding them.” Leanna Byrne speaks to microfinance pioneer Dr Jennifer Riria about her life, career, and personal mission to improve the lives of women in some of Africa’s poorest communities. Having started life in a poor, rural village in Kenya, Dr Riria worked her way up to develop and run one of the biggest microfinance institutions for women in Africa. Microfinance is a banking service providing small loans and more, to people with low income who might lack access to traditional banking. It’s aimed at fostering self-sufficiency, financial education, and entrepreneurship in developing areas. Her focus is not limited to finance. She also draws on her experiences of teaching at university, and consulting for UNICEF, the UN children’s aid agency, in order to progress women’s development in education and leadership. Thank you to the Business Daily team for their help in making this programme. The Interview brings you conversations with people shaping our world, from all over the world. The best interviews from the BBC, including episodes with Botswana’s president Duma Boko, entrepreneur Emma Grede, and astronaut Jeremy Hansen. You can listen on the BBC World Service on Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays at 0800 GMT. Or you can listen to The Interview as a podcast, out three times a week on BBC Sounds or wherever you get your podcasts. Presenter: Leanna Byrne Producers: Ben Cooper, Ahmed Adan and Amber Mehmood Editor: Damon Rose Get in touch with us on email TheInterview@bbc.co.uk and use the hashtag #TheInterviewBBC on social media.
(Image: Jennifer Riria. Credit: Getty)
Clips
Transcript preview
First 90 secondsAsma Khalid0:00
This BBC podcast is supported by ads outside the UK. [upbeat music] This weekend, elite athletes from around the world are descending on Las Vegas, where they'll compete with the aid of performance-enhancing drugs. That's right, steroids and growth hormones, drugs that are normally barred in professional sports. I'm Asma Khalid, and I host The Global Story podcast from the BBC. On our show, we'll dive into the world of the first-ever Enhanced Games, also nicknamed the Doping Olympics. For more, listen to The Global Story on bbc.com or wherever you get your podcasts.
Leanna Byrne· Host0:34
[upbeat music] Hello, I'm BBC journalist Liana Byrne, and this is The Interview from the BBC World Service, the best conversations coming out of the BBC, people shaping our world from all over the world.
Asma Khalid0:48
If you're not a little bit afraid, then you're not paying attention.
Jennifer Riria· Guest0:54
We have never seen a people so united.
Leanna Byrne· Host0:57
Do not make that boat crossing. Do not make that journey.
Asma Khalid1:00
Being born in America, feeling American, but having people treat me like I'm not. We're more popular than populism.
Leanna Byrne· Host1:06
For this interview, I spoke to the African business leader, Dr. Jennifer Riira, over Zoom while she was in Nairobi. Having started life in a poor rural village in Kenya, Dr. Riira worked her way up to develop and run one of the biggest microfinance institutions for women in Africa. Microfinance is a banking service providing small loans and