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Catching Evil

Jane Doe

2/16/202639 min

She was fifteen. Tiny — barely 160 centimetres tall. Wearing a pink bikini on an ordinary Thursday morning, walking alone near her home.

Christopher Wilder was six foot, well into a killing rampage across America, and should have been in police custody that morning. He wasn't. A private detective had handed police in Miami enough evidence. They called it "no evidence of foul play."

Two days later, Colleen Orsborn was gone.

For 27 years she lay in a morgue labelled Jane Doe — a number, a file, a girl nobody could name. Her mother never stopped searching. Neve...

Clips

Living With Endless Grief
A Mother Who Never Gave Up
Runaway Label Cost Lives
Finally Saying Goodbye
She Is Not Jane Doe
Anger Without A Place
Misidentified For Decades
What Colleen Could Have Been
Why She Skipped School
Trust, Shattered Forever

Transcript preview

First 90 seconds

  1. Margaret Carroll· Guest0:00

    [somber music] You learn to live with grief. You never get over grief. It's always there.

  2. Andy Byrne· Host0:06

    I mean, Colleen was only 160 centimeters tall. She didn't stand a chance.

  3. Margaret Carroll· Guest0:11

    This experience, it changes how you look at the world.

  4. Mark Llewellyn· Host0:14

    How does it change the way you look at the world?

  5. Margaret Carroll· Guest0:16

    You don't trust it.

  6. Andy Byrne· Host0:18

    I'm very critical of the police back in Miami because they're just deciding to have their meeting about him on the day that he's actually stalking his next victim.

  7. Mark Llewellyn· Host0:25

    Up here.

  8. Andy Byrne· Host0:26

    He should have been stopped.

  9. Andrew Byrne0:27

    Catching Evil, episode six, Jane Doe.

  10. Mark Llewellyn· Host0:30

    And a warning: this podcast contains adult content and listener discretion is advised.

  11. Margaret Carroll· Guest0:35

    You couldn't make sense of it. It was this little girl. Just a little girl. [sniffs] Nobody has the right. There shouldn't be those people.

  12. Mark Llewellyn· Host0:48

    That's Margaret, the big sister of Colleen, one of Wilder's victims. Hi, I'm Mark, and welcome to Catching Evil.

  13. Andy Byrne· Host0:58

    And I'm Andy, and these stories matter. If you believe victims deserve a voice, please share this episode and leave us a rating and review. We've received some amazing new leads already, but to continue this investigation and bring justice to more families, we need your support.

  14. Mark Llewellyn· Host1:17

    Which brings us to Margaret's story. It's a searing account of the impact Christopher Wilder's lust for murder has had on the families of the girls and young women he killed. Colleen

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