"It's a Story of Hubris": NYT journalists Maggie Habeman and Jonathan Swan on their new book analyzing Trump's second term, "Regime Change"

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Willie Geist· Host0:58

[upbeat music] Well, you can't see the algae from this view. It still looks beautiful- Yeah ... from above. 7:18 in the morning in Washington. We're back.

Maggie Haberman· Guest1:10

There's a big s- like, ripped slit through that.

Willie Geist· Host1:12

Well, is there- Somebody take a knife, they say.

Maggie Haberman· Guest1:13

It's a gouge.

Willie Geist· Host1:14

Is there? We need to get a little closer look at it.

Joe Scarborough· Host1:16

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Maggie Haberman· Guest1:18

It's ripping open the bottom of the- It keeps growing every time we talk about it.

Willie Geist· Host1:21

Uh, we are back talking about Regime Change: Inside the Imperial Presidency of Donald Trump with Maggie Haberman and Jonathan Swan. Maggie, there's been so much reporting out of the book already