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Is Zohran Mamdani’s “Sewer Socialism” Resonating?

4/15/202641 min

The New Yorker staff writer Molly Fischer joins Tyler Foggatt to discuss Zohran Mamdani’s first hundred days as mayor of New York. They talk about how Mamdani has carried his highly disciplined, media-forward messaging style into office—and how his governing style combines practical city management with a focus on visible and public-facing execution. They also explore the status of his core initiatives, including universal child care and other affordability measures, whether he has scaled back or recalibrated some campaign promises, and how he has navigated relationships with figures such as Governor Kathy Hochul and President Donald Trump as he tries to harness his political momentum into durable results.

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  1. Tyler Foggatt· Host0:00

    [gentle music] Hi, Molly.

  2. Molly Fischer· Guest0:07

    Hi, Tyler.

  3. Tyler Foggatt· Host0:08

    Thanks so much for being here.

  4. Molly Fischer· Guest0:09

    Thank you for having me.

  5. Tyler Foggatt· Host0:10

    Since January, you have been writing this column for The New Yorker about Zohran Mamdani's mayorship. And last week, you actually spoke with Mamdani, which I think was... It was just before he officially hit 100 days in office.

  6. Molly Fischer· Guest0:22

    Day 99. [laughs] Right under the wire.

  7. Tyler Foggatt· Host0:24

    [laughs] Perfect time to do an interview. I'm wondering what surprised you or stood out to you from meeting him. Like, after spending so much time writing and talking about him from, like, a little bit of a distance, what was it like actually chatting with him?

  8. Molly Fischer· Guest0:36

    The man is profoundly on message. [laughs] I mean, I, I was saying earlier, you know, if you remember the first time he met with Trump in the Oval Office, he somehow took a question about how you... how he got to DC, like, whether he took the plane or the train or what, and managed to bring that back to the affordability agenda.

  9. Tyler Foggatt· Host0:53

    I think that is interesting because you see he has all these videos that are obviously very on message, and then you kind of wonder how much of that is sort of scripted or programmed or part of, like, a larger team, but it actually just seems like those are the things that he's interested in. He's, like, very media savvy and kinda knows how to keep the conversation on the things that he actually cares about as opposed to his personal life or- Well, yeah ... the other things that his critics like to- I mean- ... focus on.

  10. Molly Fischer· Guest1:16

    I don't know. People will sometimes talk about... Well, people will talk about many arenas of life as being, quote, unquote, "like high school," and people will certainly say that about politics. And what I found myself thinking about and writing about in the last installment of this column was the way in which the first

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