Is It Already Too Late to Control AI? (Anthropic Co-Founder, Jack Clark)

Alastair Campbell· Host0:00

Thanks for listening to The Rest is Politics. Sign up to The Rest is Politics Plus to enjoy ad-free listening, receive a weekly newsletter, join our members' chat room, and gain early access to live show tickets. Just go to therestispolitics.com. That's therestispolitics.com The world we're in is one where AI companies are building the equivalent of nuclear power plants, and we just had our first case where when we upgrade the plant, a nuclear bomb also falls out of it.

Jack Clark· Guest0:23

You say, "Uh-oh, this has some implications."

Rory Stewart· Host0:25

Are we in a world in which we're essentially saying that a bunch of voluntary good guys build these amazing weapons, and then they just choose not to release them, but nobody can tell them what to do?

Jack Clark· Guest0:34

We're entering an era where you actually need to do serious coordination, including between governments, to keep having all gas, no brakes. It's not sustainable to keep this going.

Matt Clifford· Host0:44

We have to figure out that coordination both within the industry and maybe more importantly and more challengingly with China.

Jack Clark· Guest0:52

If everyone gets access to it, you're now rolling, like, a whole bunch of loaded dice- Yeah ... with, with the lives of people around the planet. We have to somehow force a larger conversation on what do we want to do with this technology and how do we want it to be developed.

Rory Stewart· Host1:04

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Alastair Campbell· Host1:17

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Rory Stewart· Host1:23

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