Is AI a Bubble? | Gavin Baker on Data Centers, GPUs, and the AI Economy
7/14/202632 min
As part of our summer replay series, we're revisiting one of the standout conversations from Runtime, a16z's conference on AI infrastructure and the future of computing.
Gavin Baker, Managing Partner and CIO of Atreides Management, joins David George to examine the biggest questions surrounding today's AI investment cycle. Is AI a bubble? What does the unprecedented buildout of data centers, GPUs, and compute infrastructure mean for the economy? And how should investors think about the companies building the next generation of AI?
The conversation explores frontier models, Nvidia, Google, custom silicon, AI infrastructure, application software, robotics, and why Baker believes today's AI investment cycle looks fundamentally different from the internet bubble of the early 2000s. Along the way, they discuss the economics of GPUs, enterprise software, AI business models, and what comes next as AI moves from experimentation into the broader economy.
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First 90 secondsDavid George· Host0:00
Are we in an AI bubble?
Gavin Baker· Guest0:01
Uh, I do not believe we're in an AI bubble today. I was, depending on how you look at it, the privilege and the misfortune of being a tech investor during the year two thousand bubble, which was really a telecom bubble. And I think it's really helpful to compare and contrast today to the year two thousand. The year two thousand internet bubble or telecom bubble was defined by something called dark fiber. At the peak, ninety-seven percent of the fiber that had been laid was dark. Contrast that with today. There are no dark GPUs.
Speaker 30:29
The headlines change, the underlying questions don't. As AI investment continues to reshape the technology landscape, founders and investors are still grappling with the same core issues. Are we building too much infrastructure? How durable are today's economics? And where will the long-term value accrue? David George sits down with Atreides Management's Gavin Baker to unpack the AI boom from GPUs and data centers to frontier models, software, and robotics. Whether you're an investor, founder, or simply trying to understand where AI is headed, this conversation offers a thoughtful framework for thinking about one of the greatest technology shifts in decades.
Speaker 41:10
And that brings us to our opening fireside chat. We're gonna start with a taboo question right out of the gate. Are you ready for it? If AI is the biggest trend in the world right now, where is the evidence for it? Why is it only just beginning to show up in the economy? And as Andrej Karpathy