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Inside the White House–Anthropic War

6/18/202624 min

Ian Krietzberg and Peter get to the bottom of why Trump put the kibosh on Anthropic’s powerful new Fable model, how Dario Amodei screwed the pooch, whether the freakout is overblown, and what it all means for the rest of us.

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  1. Ian Kreitzberg· Guest0:01

    What seems to be clear is that the government has changed its stance and is now interested in a form of regulation, but it's a very haphazard form. It's very much at the whims of whatever we're kind of feeling, and that makes it really, really difficult.

  2. Peter Hamby· Host0:17

    Welcome to the Powers That Be Daily, Puck's podcast focused on the intersection of Wall Street, Washington, Silicon Valley, and Hollywood, and the players who run it all. I'm Peter Hamby. It's Thursday, June 18th. Today, I'm joined by Ian Kreitzberg to walk me through the fraught relationship between Anthropic and the US government, which forced the company to yank two of its most powerful models over security concerns. Anthropic disputes the seriousness of the Trump administration's claims, but all of this comes as world leaders are gathered in France at the G7 Summit and expressing growing concerns about US dominance in the AI space and capricious American efforts to regulate the industry. As Ian explains, we are seemingly at a pivot point in which world leaders are going to have to put up or shut up when it comes to actually putting guardrails around the few powerful companies building our AI future. We'll discuss all that and much more on today's episode of the Powers That Be.

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