Inside The Democratic Party Civil War - Ezra Klein - #1114
6/22/20262 hr 9 min
Ezra Klein is a journalist & political commentator.
What’s actually happening in politics? The right says it’s winning. The left says democracy is at risk. Yet the country feels more divided than ever. So what’s really going on, and is it still possible for a leader on either side of the aisle to unite America?
Expect to learn we’re being fracked by the politics of attention, if the left’s version of Joe Rogan could have swayed the political tides their way in 2024, why the Left has zero leaders in contention for the 2028 ticket, the correct way we should regulate AI, how to seperate yourself from political anger, what to pay attention to over the next few years and much more…
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Timestamps:
(0:00) How Ezra Klein Became an Unlikely Thirst Trap (3:40) The Benefits of Keeping Your Private Life Boring (13:44) Are The Democrats' Tweets Getting Out of Hand? (18:20) Could a Liberal Joe Rogan Have Changed the Election? (25:53) Is Ezra in the Middle of a Democrat Civil War? (30:35) The Risk of Criticising Your Own Side (40:41) Have Ezra’s Politics Evolved? (46:02) What Makes the Ideal Democratic Candidate? (49:02) Why Authenticity Wins (53:53) What Does Deregulation Actually Mean? (59:47) How Should We Regulate AI? (01:09:00) The Urgent Problem of AI Safety (01:16:34) How Ezra Would Approach AI Safety (01:25:00) Distinguishing What’s Productive From Unproductive (01:30:47) Are the Left Losing Young Men? (01:47:46) Why We Need to Unify the Sexes (01:50:30) How to Not Let Criticism Get to You (01:56:24) Does Better Information Create Better Politics? (01:59:09) What is Ezra Focusing On Next? (02:08:22) What’s Next For Ezra?
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First 90 secondsChris Williamson· Host0:00
Ezra Klein, so hot right now.
Ezra Klein· Guest0:02
[laughs] Oh, no.
Chris Williamson· Host0:03
Did you ever expect to be referred to as an unlikely thirst trap?
Ezra Klein· Guest0:06
I did not, and, uh, I try to ignore that it's happening. [laughs] [laughs] The... It also has this funny quality, some of this coverage, of how now it's like I took off my glasses and grew a beard, and it's very She's All That. It's like, oh, like maybe he's... I always look the same to me.
Chris Williamson· Host0:24
[laughs] Well, an unlikely thirst trap feels like the most backhanded insult- [laughs] ... or compliment. I- it's like a Rorschach test for whether or not you feel good about yourself. But I don't know what way that's sup-... Is that, is that supposed to be a nice thing? Unlikely thirst trap.
Ezra Klein· Guest0:39
I don't, uh, when you are profiled, it is not supposed to be a nice thing.
Chris Williamson· Host0:43
[laughs] Okay, so you'll take unlikely thirst trap as- I think, I think that's like also an important thing to know about just like the whole genre of profiling.
Ezra Klein· Guest0:49
It's never supposed to be a totally nice thing.
Chris Williamson· Host0:52
Mm.
Ezra Klein· Guest0:52
Usually not supposed to be a totally mean thing. It's trying to create energy.
Chris Williamson· Host0:57
That's interesting. There was a rumor in that, that you'd had to adjust your lighting on your podcast set- Not true ... to make you look less attractive because it was distracting from the, the real substance of the- It is a not true rumor. Wow.
Ezra Klein· Guest1:10
And, and it's gonna be a even weirder thing to discuss like here while you're sitting there like three times as ripped in front of me- [laughs] ... as we talk about whether or not I'm hot.
Chris Williamson· Host1:18
[laughs] Uh, I know, it's... I thought that that was an interesting profile, but yeah. How do you feel about having a mini celebrity moment like that?
Ezra Klein· Guest1:28
You try