Inside Keir Starmer's plan to remain PM till 2027
5/19/202629 min
- Scoop: Keir Starmer thinks he can remain prime minister till 2027, even if Andy Burnham wins in Makerfield...And if Burnham loses, what then?
- Fear and loathing in Number 10: we have details about the extraordinary levels of anger at the top of government.
- Makerfield is the most consequential by-election in history. Can Andy Burnham win in this pro-Brexit, anti-establishment seat? He's pitching himself as the anti-politics candidate, while simultaneously plotting his route to Downing Street.
- And if he does win, what will he do with power? Could he end up as a Keir Starmer in running shorts?
Steven Swinford, political editor, The Times
Patrick Maguire, chief political commentator, The Times
Lara Spirit, deputy political editor, The Sunday Times
Producers: Euan Dawtrey, Harry Kitson
Executive producer: Molly Guinness
Picture credit: Getty Images
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First 90 secondsTom Clarke0:00
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Speaker 2· Soundbite0:29
[upbeat music] Our problem is Labour, as Labour should be, isn't for the working man anymore. Labour's only for the middle classes now.
Tom Clarke0:40
Do you think Andy Burnham's gonna win?
Speaker 2· Soundbite0:42
No. I actually hope that he gets egg on his face.
Speaker 3· Soundbite0:46
During COVID, I used to see him walking round. So he's local. That's, and that's what I like about him. He's a very relatable person.
Speaker 2· Soundbite0:53
Burnham, I think, will get more votes than Farage and all them. I think Burnham will get more votes. He's Starmer, he's a, he's a knobhead. He's not, he's doing, he's no balls with more brains than a bottle of, a milk bottle than him.
Steven Swinford· Host1:07
Welcome to The State of It, the political podcast from The Times and The Sunday Times. I'm Stephen Swinford, the political editor of The Times.
Lara Spirit· Host1:16
I'm Laura Spiers, the deputy political editor of The Sunday Times.
Patrick Maguire· Host1:19
And I am Patrick Maguire, chief plus commentator for The Times.
Steven Swinford· Host1:22
This week, we are going to talk to you about fear and loathing in number 10, how Starmer feels betrayed