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Ian Bremmer: Who Is Actually Running the World?

4/23/20261 hr 47 min

Political scientist and author Ian Bremmer joins Trevor and Eugene to break down a world that is starting to feel a lot less predictable. What happens when American influence is no longer the default and tech companies begin to rival governments in power?

 

Together, they unpack what that shift looks like in real terms, why the old rules are no longer holding, and what it means to be heading toward a “G-Zero” world, where no single country is in charge.

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First 90 seconds
  1. Trevor Noah· Host0:00

    [upbeat music] This is why you should always lie to your AI. I encourage people all the time to- To lie? As much as you can.

  2. Eugene Khoza· Host0:10

    Tell me more.

  3. Trevor Noah· Host0:10

    And every time you type into your AI- Mm ... like, whatever you use, I always encourage people to just throw it off the trail sometimes. Just be like, "I'm a father of seven, and this is my life, and, you know, this is what's happening."

  4. Eugene Khoza· Host0:22

    But you are a father.

  5. Trevor Noah· Host0:24

    Y- y- Of seven. Yeah, but if you're not a father of seven- Oh, okay ... you get what I'm saying?

  6. Eugene Khoza· Host0:27

    Okay.

  7. Trevor Noah· Host0:27

    Just be, like, random things. I live in Bulgaria, and this is my story, and this is my world.

  8. Ian Bremmer· Guest0:31

    But you do live in Bulgaria.

  9. Trevor Noah· Host0:33

    Oh.

  10. Eugene Khoza· Host0:33

    I mean.

  11. Ian Bremmer· Guest0:33

    You just don't tell people that.

  12. Trevor Noah· Host0:35

    Y- you know, I thought I was worried about the future. [laughs] I should be worried about the present. [laughs] I've got two state actors here. [laughs] I'm trying to help you.

  13. Eugene Khoza· Host0:42

    What you mean is agent provocateur.

  14. Ian Bremmer· Guest0:44

    That's right.

  15. Trevor Noah· Host0:49

    [laughs] [laughs] [upbeat music] This is What Now? with Trevor Noah. All right, Eugene.

  16. Eugene Khoza· Host0:58

    Mm.

  17. Trevor Noah· Host0:58

    Let's play a little game. You know, make something fun. Two truths and a lie.

  18. Eugene Khoza· Host1:03

    Mm-hmm.

  19. Trevor Noah· Host1:03

    Here we go. One, I've had to tell a world leader that their fly was undone. Two, when getting dressed, I don't do sock, sock, shoe, shoe. I do sock, shoe, sock, shoe. Three, I've been a Verizon customer for 11 years. What do you think?

  20. Eugene Khoza· Host1:20

    Hmm, very confused. First of all, why would a world leader own a fly? 'Cause those things just come uninvited. Secondly, lying to your friend is not cool.

  21. Ian Bremmer· Guest1:29

    It's never

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