I Was Charlie Kirk's Side When He Was Taken Out... | DSH #2065
7/15/20261 hr
| DSH #2065 Can faith, reason, and politics still survive in a culture built on outrage? In this Digital Social Hour episode, Sean Kelly sits down with Frank Turek from CrossExamined to discuss Charlie Kirk, Christian apologetics, college campuses, free speech, faith, Islam, Israel, media bias, social media outrage, entrepreneurship, family, inflation, politics, abortion, and the future of American culture. Frank reflects on his friendship with Charlie Kirk, what he taught him about Christian apologetics, and why he believes Charlie’s real strength was not just intelligence, but humility and a willingness to keep learning. The conversation moves into the biggest cultural debates happening on college campuses, including free speech, religion, immigration, assimilation, Israel, Islam, LGBTQ issues, gender, and why short clips often distort complex topics into outrage. Frank also explains why he believes faith should be defended with evidence, not emotion. He discusses the case for God, the resurrection, the Bible, morality, evil, mathematics, simulation theory, and why he believes reality points to a designer. Later, the episode covers entrepreneurship, being fired from corporate America, Gen Z’s search for meaning, family breakdown, inflation, housing affordability, Trump’s second term, Christian principles in politics, abortion, forgiveness, and why Frank believes truth must matter more than feelings. CHAPTERS 0:00 Charlie Kirk, Heaven, and the Opening Claims 3:03 UC Berkeley, Free Speech, and Charlie’s Legacy 5:32 Islam, Sharia Law, Assimilation, and American Freedom 13:20 Social Media Clips, Outrage, and Hasty Generalizations 23:09 Agnosticism, Simulation Theory, Mathematics, and God 29:40 Faith, Evidence, Resurrection, and the Problem of Evil 38:53 Gen Z, Purpose, Family, and the War on Reality 41:14 Inflation, Housing, Credit Cards, and Financial Pressure 48:20 DEI, Merit, Trump, RFK, and Political Policy 54:18 Christianity, Morality, Abortion, Forgiveness, and Final Thoughts WHAT YOU’LL LEARN ✝️ How Frank Turek helped mentor Charlie Kirk in Christian apologetics 🎤 Why college campuses remain central to the free speech debate 📖 How Frank argues for God, the Bible, and the resurrection using evidence 🧠 Why short clips and algorithms can distort serious issues 🌍 How immigration, assimilation, and religious freedom become major cultural questions 🇮🇱 Why Israel and Gaza remain some of the hardest topics on campus 💼 How Frank moved from corporate training to full-time ministry 🏠 Why inflation and housing costs are crushing younger generations 🏛️ Why he believes policies matter more than political personalities 🙏 How Frank explains morality, abortion, forgiveness, and Christian truth 🎙️ APPLY OR CONNECT 👉 Interested in being a guest? Apply here: https://www.digitalsocialhour.com/apply 📩 Business Inquiries & Sponsorships sean@digitalsocialhour.com 👤 GUEST Dr. Frank Turek: https://www.instagram.com/drfrankturek/?hl=en https://x.com/DrFrankTurek https://crossexamined.org/ 🎧 LISTEN TO THE PODCAST 🍏 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/digital-social-hour/id1676846015 🎵 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5Jn7LXarRlI8Hc0GtTn759 📸 Follow the Host Sean Kelly on Instagram: @seanmikekelly ⚠️ DISCLAIMER The views and opinions expressed by guests on Digital Social Hour are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of the host, Sean Kelly, or the Digital Social Hour team. The host and producers are not responsible for statements, claims, or opinions shared by guests during the show. This content is intended for informational and entertainment purposes only and should not be considered legal, medical, financial, or professional advice. Listeners are encouraged to do their own research and consult qualified professionals when appropriate. While we aim to share accurate and reliable information, no guarantees are made regarding completeness or accuracy. 🔥 Stay tuned for more conversations with creators, founders, and innovators shaping the digital world. KEYWORDS Frank Turek, CrossExamined, Digital Social Hour, Sean Kelly, Charlie Kirk, Christian apologetics, faith, free speech, college campuses, politics, religion, Christianity Visit Our Website at https://digital-social-hour.simplecast.com/ Presented by https://podgo.io/ Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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First 90 secondsFrank Turek· Guest0:00
What I actually said at Charlie's funeral memorial service, that Charlie Kirk is in heaven not because he died for his savior, Charlie Kirk is in heaven because his savior died for Charlie Kirk. That's why you have Gays for Gaza. [laughs] Like, why would you have Gays for Gaza, right? If gays go to Gaza, they're gonna be thrown off the building and be murdered. I got fired in the name of inclusion, tolerance, and diversity, Sean, because- Okay, guys, we got Frank on the show today from Cross Examined Ministry.
Sean Kelly· Host0:32
Fellow Jersey boy. What's up, man? How's it going?
Frank Turek· Guest0:35
Great being with you. Forget about it. [laughs] You know, I, I haven't, I haven't lived in Jersey since I was 18, but I still have a lot of Jersey in me, so.
Sean Kelly· Host0:44
Did your life get way better when you moved out at 18?
Frank Turek· Guest0:46
Uh, yeah, I went to college, and then I went in the Navy, and then I moved everywhere, and then I moved to Charlotte to attend seminary, and we stayed here. We've been in Charlotte for 33 years.
Sean Kelly· Host0:56
Nice.
Frank Turek· Guest0:56
I've got kids that are probably older than you. [laughs] So.
Sean Kelly· Host0:59
I'm 29.
Frank Turek· Guest1:00
Yeah, yeah, d- all my kids are older than you, man.
Sean Kelly· Host1:02
[laughs] Wow. Wow. Um, yeah, Jersey's interesting. I think it's good for families, but with the politics now, I don't think I'd move back there, you know?
Frank Turek· Guest1:09
The taxes aren't good either.
Sean Kelly· Host1:11
Oh, man.
Frank Turek· Guest1:12
Yeah.
Sean Kelly· Host1:12
Second-highest, I believe, in the country.
Frank Turek· Guest1:14
Something like that.
Sean Kelly· Host1:14
Yeah.
Frank Turek· Guest1:14
But you're in, y- you're in Vegas, right?
Sean Kelly· Host1:17
Yeah, no state tax here. I'm chilling over here.
Frank Turek· Guest1:19
That's nice, man. You ain't chilling in Vegas. [laughs] It's 110 degrees in the winter. Come on.
Sean Kelly· Host1:23
Oh, man, the summers out here, it's, it's starting to ramp up right now. I gotta get outta here. But dude, what's,

