I was a sovereign citizen

Andrew Rule· Host0:00

[gentle music] When you heard of Dessey Freeman doing what he did- Mm ... last August, what was your reaction?

Brodie Finnegan-Forbes· Guest0:08

To be honest, sadness, because for someone to go that far into that level of paranoia and thinking that they're a victim while also simultaneously acting like a predator, and then to take the lives of two people and then, uh, almost another two, innocent people who were just doing their jobs- Yep ... who do a great job, it's just profoundly sad.

Andrew Rule· Host0:31

I'm Andrew Rule, this is Life & Crimes. Today, we have a guest in the studio who's come a long way in his life. His name is Brodie Finnegan-Forbes. He is a young man who became involved with what we call the sovereign citizens back during the COVID pandemic, and he spent almost a year on a compound in rural Western Victoria with a group of people that he realized over a period of about 10 months could be quite menacing. And in fact, he left that compound at midnight one night because he knew it wasn't a safe place to be. About seven weeks later, sovereign citizens in Queensland, the Train brothers, killed two police officers and one of their neighbors.