I Know Why Trump Is Terrified of Firing RFK Jr.
5/3/202652 min
Michael Wolff and Joanna Coles examine a White House spiraling under the weight of Donald Trump’s collapsing authority, as disastrous poll numbers sink into the 30s and panic spreads through his inner circle; they trace the quiet unraveling of RFK Jr. as his anti-vax crusade backfires and allies plot a face-saving exit, while a bitter, calculating Tucker Carlson turns on Trump and positions himself for 2028, exposing the raw opportunism driving the movement; all of it unfolds against the grinding uncertainty of the Iran war, a conflict with no clear victory, no public support, and no exit, leaving Trump increasingly isolated, his team turning on itself, and the entire project teetering toward a reckoning that no one inside seems able to control. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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First 90 secondsMichael Wolff· Guest0:00
They don't want to fire him because he has the Maha constituency is significant, they feel, to their, to the Trump base. So they want him to go away, but not go away mad. That's a powerful constituency. If he becomes their enemy, Tucker has become their en- there's only so many enemies in their own base they can afford. We are seeing the gradual defenestration of RFK Jr. Still junior at 72.
Joanna Coles· Host0:32
[upbeat music] Michael.
Michael Wolff· Guest0:37
Joanna, how it goes?
Joanna Coles· Host0:39
[sighs] It's a lot. As, uh, as close observers of this podcast will know, this is not my usual background. I'm in my childhood home where my mum is terminally ill, and what I've discovered through so many notes from people and comments and emails is how many people, uh, are going through this right now and have gone through this, and how devastating it is. And we mentioned last time when we were talking about it, this is something that everybody inevitably goes through, but it's very hard to prepare for. My mum has pancreatic cancer, uh, which is a s- you know, it's a nasty cancer. A lot of people out there have had, uh, run-ins with it and lost loved ones. And just a big thank you to everybody who's written in. And, um,