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How to Read Horse Behavior — Elsa Sinclair on the 5 Types of Leadership

6/23/20261 hr 5 min

There is a question almost every one of us carries to the barn and never says out loud.

Not how do I get him to do this.

But: does he actually trust me — or is he just complying?

This is Part 2 of my conversation with Elsa Sinclair, and it's the half where I kept having to stop and close my eyes. Because Elsa reads horse behavior in a way most of us were never taught to. She breaks leadership into five kinds — dominant, persistent, assertive, passive, supportive — and then says the thing that reorganized my brain: that leadership is simply any action that results in harmony. That dominance and abuse are not the same thing.

She takes us back inside the year she spent with a wild mustang named Myrnah — three to six hours a day, five days a week. The morning she got on at three months, did it badly, and wasn't allowed back on for another three. Not because anything went wrong. Because her timing was off by a hair, and the horse simply told the truth about it.

Then comes the line I haven't stopped repeating: "I'm not going to try to be the best horse trainer in the room. I'm going to try to be the most accurate."

This is freedom based training as a craft — not a philosophy you admire from a distance, but a practice you can take to the barn tomorrow. Elsa shows how to actually see a horse's thought before you reward it — the ear that flicks, the eye that moves, the breath — and gives a homework exercise you can start in the morning. We get into why hyperfocus on the goal keeps you tripping over the next step. Why confidence, quietly, trumps every strategy. And Atlas — the horse she bought off a slaughter truck, the one who broke everything she thought she knew.

If you've ever felt like you're learning too slowly with your horse, this episode reframes that ache as the whole point.

Elsa Sinclair is a lifelong horsewoman, horse behavior researcher, and filmmaker. Her year with the mustang Myrnah became a documentary, Taming Wild, and a book by the same name. She now teaches freedom based training to students across Europe, Australia, and New Zealand.

If you have a horse who's been trying to tell you something — this one is for you. And if you know someone still fighting the horse they love, send it to them.


IN THIS EPISODE YOU'LL LEARN

  • Elsa's full leadership spectrum — dominant, persistent, assertive, passive, and supportive — and why she defines leadership as any action that results in harmony
  • The difference between dominance and abuse, and how a single raised hand tells her which one a horse has lived through
  • Why she got on Myrnah bareback and bridleless at three months — and the timing mistake that cost her the next three
  • The distinction between feel and timing, and why she'd rather be the most accurate trainer in the room than the best one
  • How to read a horse's thoughts through its senses instead of projecting the thought you wish were there
  • Why confidence can trump every technique, and how to build it from the bottom up if you don't have it yet
  • The case for the slowest training method on Earth, and how slowing down actually deepens what you learn

To find out more about Elsa Sinclair: website | instagram | facebook | patreon


CHAPTERS & TIMESTAMPS

[00:00] Leadership options most training never breaks down
[00:23] The leadership spectrum: dominant, persistent, and assertive
[04:36] Building it bottom-up: passive and supportive leadership
[07:30] Riding bridleless: the year with Myrnah, and getting on at three months
[10:00] Feel versus timing, and rewarding the thought, not the action
[12:47] Why she'd rather be the most accurate trainer than the best
[15:33] Untraining yourself: the sensory system over mechanical habit
[21:44] "Playing in Puddles": letting go of the goal of riding
[36:00] The horse who decided humans always make bad decisions
[40:20] Confidence wins: when it trumps every technique
[45:36] The two horses who shaped her: the generous one and the mold-breaker
[54:00] The beauty of slowness, and learning to enjoy the snail's pace
[56:24] Rapid fire: the one book, the most undervalued skill, mares vs stallions

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First 90 seconds
  1. Elsa Sinclair· Guest0:00

    And there are gonna be days, I gave you guys this task of, like, try and have good timing four times in a row.

  2. Noëlle Floyd· Host0:05

    Yeah.

  3. Elsa Sinclair· Guest0:06

    Rest at the right time for the right amount of time four times in a row.

  4. Noëlle Floyd· Host0:08

    Yeah.

  5. Elsa Sinclair· Guest0:09

    There are days you will not get past two all day. And you have to laugh at it. Like, this is your horse saying, "Do better."

  6. Noëlle Floyd· Host0:16

    If you haven't listened to part one yet, please go back. This conversation with Elsa Sinclair really builds, and it's worth starting from the beginning. In this episode, we go deeper. We talk about the different types of leadership, what it actually takes to move from passive to assertive, and why Elsa believes curiosity is a more powerful tool than patience. She also says something I really wasn't expecting, that confidence trumps every strategy she's ever taught. The greatest horseman, Elsa says, is probably yet to be born. This conversation is about closing that gap. Before we begin today's episode, I'd love to ask for your support. The simplest way to support this podcast is to hit follow or subscribe wherever you are listening. It helps the show reach more people who care about the same things that we do: better horsemanship, deeper conversations, and a more

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