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How to fight burnout

4/19/202629 min

We've been stuck in cycles of burnout for decades. Have Gen Z workers found a way out? This episode was produced by Peter Balonon-Rosen and Danielle Hewitt, edited by Jenny Lawton, fact-checked by Melissa Hirsch, engineered by Patrick Boyd, and hosted by Jonquilyn Hill. Empty battery. Photo Illustration by Thomas Trutschel/Photothek via Getty Images. You can take a version of the burnout test here. If you have a question, give us a call at 1-800-618-8545 or email askvox@vox.com. Listen to Explain It to Me ad-free by becoming a Vox Member: vox.com/members. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Clips

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Dream Job Turns Dark
The ‘We’re Family’ Red Flag
Burnout Isn’t Just Tired
Let Some Plates Fall
The Unspoken Burnout Symptom
Dream Jobs Don’t Exist
Gen Z’s Boundary Playbook
From Meh To Burned Out
A Better Burnout Metaphor
An Energy Audit You Can Use

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First 90 seconds

  1. Jonquilyn Hill· Host0:00

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  2. Speaker 10:28

    [static] Burnout kinda comes from a place of just, like, numbness or not feeling and lack of motivation.

  3. Speaker 20:36

    [static] Tense pain, angst in my chest that then just spreads slowly across to my shoulders.

  4. Speaker 10:43

    [static] You're stuck in this hard place of, "I don't wanna give up this job, but I don't really find joy in it anymore."

  5. Jonquilyn Hill· Host0:49

    [static] [upbeat music] Jonathan Malesic landed his dream job teaching at a small Catholic college in Pennsylvania.

  6. Jonathan Malesic· Guest0:57

    From about age 20 or so, I wanted to be a college religion or theology professor.

  7. Jonquilyn Hill· Host1:04

    Mm-hmm.

  8. Jonathan Malesic· Guest1:04

    And I got it. I got exactly my dream.

  9. Jonquilyn Hill· Host1:08

    He was publishing papers, earning tenure. He was really happy, until he wasn't.

  10. Jonathan Malesic· Guest1:14

    So about eight or nine years into the career, I found it harder and harder to get out of bed [laughs] in the morning. Um, I started having weird, inexplicable pains, um, in my torso in

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