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How Should Jude Influence How We Think About the Deuterocanon?

2/16/20261 hr

The Letter of Jude Q+R (E7) — Are Jesus’ brothers his half-brothers or cousins? What are the love-meals that Jude mentions? And what did the early Church believe about spiritual beings procreating? In this episode, Tim and Jon respond to your questions from the Letter of Jude series. Thank you to our audience for your thoughtful contributions to this episode!

FULL SHOW NOTES

For summaries of Tim and Jon’s responses and referenced Scriptures, check out the full show notes for this episode.

CHAPTERS

  1. Intro (0:00-3:17)
  2. Are Jesus’ Brothers His Half-Brothers or Cousins? (3:17-19:21)
  3. What Were Love-Meals? (19:21-31:11)
  4. How Should Jude Influence How We Think About the Deuterocanon? (31:11-43:50)
  5. What Did the Early Church Believe About Spiritual Beings Procreating? (43:50-50:41)
  6. Why Are Demons Never Mentioned in the Gospel of John? (50:41-55:32)
  7. Conclusion (55:32-1:00:08)

REFERENCED RESOURCES

  • "Firstborn: The Last Will Be First" (podcast series)
  • Jesus and the Jewish Roots of Mary: Unveiling the Mother of the Messiah by Brant Pitre
  • The Affections of Christ Jesus: Love at the Heart of Paul’s Theology by Nijay K. Gupta
  • Word Biblical Commentary Vol. 50, 2 Peter, Jude by Richard J. Bauckham
  • Jesus and the Jewish Roots of the Eucharist: Unlocking the Secrets of the Last Supper by Brant Pitre
  • Last Supper and Lord's Supper by I. Howard Marshall
  • "How the Bible Was Formed" (podcast series)
  • The Deuterocanon/Apocrypha (video series)
  • "Why the Deuterocanon/Apocrypha Is in Some Bibles and Not Others" (article)
  • The Unseen Realm: Recovering the Supernatural Worldview of the Bible by Michael S. Heiser
  • Angels: What the Bible Really Says About God’s Heavenly Host by Michael S. Heiser
  • Demons: What the Bible Really Says About the Powers of Darkness by Michael S. Heiser
  • Check out Tim’s extensive collection of recommended books here.

SHOW MUSIC

  • BibleProject theme song by TENTS

SHOW CREDITS

Production of today’s episode is by Lindsey Ponder, producer, and Cooper Peltz, managing producer. Tyler Bailey is our supervising engineer, who also edited today’s episode and provided the sound design and mix. JB Witty writes the show notes. Our host and creative director is Jon Collins, and our lead scholar is Tim Mackie.

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Clips

Early Church On Mary
Redefining 'Until'
Love Feast Equals Eucharist
Scrolls, Books, And Bibles
Canon’s Core Question

Transcript preview

First 90 seconds

  1. Jon Collins· Host0:00

    [upbeat music] Hey, Tim.

  2. Tim Mackie· Host0:06

    Hey, John. Hello.

  3. Jon Collins· Host0:07

    Hello. We get to do a Q&R- Mm-hmm ... question and response- Yeah -on the Letter of Judah.

  4. Tim Mackie· Host0:12

    Letter of Jude, uh- Judah. Uh-huh, Judas.

  5. Jon Collins· Host0:17

    Whatever.

  6. Tim Mackie· Host0:18

    Well, Jude is in our standard English translations.

  7. Jon Collins· Host0:21

    Mm-hmm.

  8. Tim Mackie· Host0:22

    Judah is the English translation of- [chuckles] ... Yehudah.

  9. Jon Collins· Host0:27

    [laughing] Mm-hmm.

  10. Tim Mackie· Host0:29

    But the Greek translation of his Hebrew name, Yehudah, was Judas.

  11. Jon Collins· Host0:32

    Hmm.

  12. Tim Mackie· Host0:33

    So- Yeah ... we're just, we're, there's like- Any of those. Any.

  13. Jon Collins· Host0:36

    [laughing] We'll be fine.

  14. Tim Mackie· Host0:37

    Yeah. Yeah.

  15. Jon Collins· Host0:39

    So, uh, you know, I was worried putting this together- Hmm ... and releasing it, that this would- [laughing] ... maybe lose a number of people. [laughing] People go, "Ah, I'm gonna wait till the next series."

  16. Tim Mackie· Host0:52

    Yeah.

  17. Jon Collins· Host0:52

    But I've been running into people who are following along.

  18. Tim Mackie· Host0:56

    Oh, really?

  19. Jon Collins· Host0:56

    Yeah.

  20. Tim Mackie· Host0:57

    Oh, awesome!

  21. Jon Collins· Host0:57

    And people have been really enjoying it.

  22. Tim Mackie· Host0:59

    Cool.

  23. Jon Collins· Host0:59

    Yeah.

  24. Tim Mackie· Host1:00

    Yeah. You know, it's just a underexplored corner of the New Testament- Yeah ... that's like a window into all this wild stuff.

  25. Jon Collins· Host1:08

    Yeah, one guy said, "The nerdier, the better." [laughing] So I guess that's a challenge.

  26. Tim Mackie· Host1:13

    Yeah. Okay, cool. You know, real time now, we had these conversations a while ago.

  27. Jon Collins· Host1:19

    Mm-hmm.

  28. Tim Mackie· Host1:20

    And so I was trying to, like, upload and remember it all- Yeah ... to come do this, a question and response time, but this is super fun. I really enjoyed working on

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