How Jemma Lilley's Fascination With Serial Killers Turned Deadly
3/4/202659 min
Some women dream of launching a career before 25. Some dream of owning their first home. Jemma Lilley had a different goal: she wanted to kill someone before her 25th birthday, but she knew she couldn't do it alone.
Obsessed with serial killers and violent fantasy, Lilley set her sights on turning desire into reality. She found an accomplice in Trudi Lenon, an impressionable single mother whom she gradually drew into her world of fixation and planning. Together, they searched for what they chillingly described as the “perfect victim.” They chose 18-year-old Aaron Pajich-Sweetman, a vulnerable teenager who was a...
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[gentle music] It's June 2016 in a nondescript brown house in Perth, and Gemma Lilley and Trudi Lenon have been living together for just three weeks. From the outside, the 25-year-old British immigrant and 44-year-old mom of two look normal, ordinary, average, but behind closed doors, their conversations are full of homicidal fantasies, and now they have a plan, and they're ready to kill. [suspenseful sound effect] "I feel as though I cannot rest until the blood or flesh of a screaming victim is gushing out and pooling on the floor," writes Gemma to her housemate. "It is definitely time," replies Trudi. "I am ready. You are ready." [suspenseful sound effect] Only thing left to do, find a victim. [gentle music] I'm Claire Murphy, and you're listening to True Crime Conversations, a podcast exploring the world's most notorious crimes by speaking to the people who know the most about them. Aaron Paige Sweetman was only 18 when he was brutally murdered by Gemma Lilley and Trudi Lenon. Trudi had known Aaron for eight years. He'd been friends with her 14-year-old son. The women decided he was easy enough to lure. They told him they needed help with computer software and invited him over. He was attacked as soon as he entered their