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How Close Are We To War With Iran? (Robert Malley)

2/16/20261 hr 9 min

How does the former US Special Representative for Iran think US-Iranian relations will improve? Is there a method to Trump’s madness when it comes to foreign policy? Why does Robert believe the “two-state solution” for Israel and Palestine is dead?
Alastair and Rory are joined by Robert Malley, architect of the 2015 Iran Nuclear deal, to answer all this and more.

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  1. Alastair Campbell· Host0:00

    Thanks for listening to The Rest is Politics. Sign up to The Rest is Politics Plus to enjoy ad-free listening, receive a weekly newsletter, join our members' chat room, and gain early access to live show tickets. Just go to therestispolitics.com. That's therestispolitics.com. [upbeat music] Welcome to The Rest is Politics Leading with me, Alastair Campbell.

  2. Rory Stewart· Host0:22

    And with me, Rory Stewart. Today, we have with us Rob Malley. Rob was right at the heart of US Middle East policy for many, many years. Had senior positions under Bill Clinton, under Barack Obama, and under Joe Biden. He was right at the heart of the Middle East peace process, in other words, uh, Israeli-Palestinian relations, but also latterly was the special envoy for Iran, senior director at the National Security Council in 2014, and was the lead negotiator on the JCPOA, which was the great deal with Iran on the nuclear file. He is probably one of the most thoughtful, certainly American analysts of the situation. So Rob, so much to talk to you about, but thank you for joining us.

  3. Robert Malley· Guest1:07

    Thank you. It's a pleasure to be with you.

  4. Alastair Campbell· Host1:09

    We like to start off with our guests just by finding out a little bit about where they came from and why they ended up where they did. So just as briefly as you like, tell us about your background, your parents, your childhood, and how you kind of started the journey to becoming what you went on to become.

  5. Robert Malley· Guest1:23

    Yeah, well, that's, uh, it's an unlikely journey in some ways. Uh, so my, my father was sort of a minority marginal figure throughout his

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