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Hollywood, The CIA & UFOs: The History Beyond Spielberg

6/20/20263 hr 43 min

Our American Alchemists this week are Bryce Zabel and Brent Friedman. Check out their podcast Sound, Light and Frequency https://soundlightfrequency.com/

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For decades, U.S. intelligence (namely, the CIA and Office of Naval Intelligence) has been quietly shaping what Hollywood tells the public about UFOs, hiding truths in plain sight. Bryce Zabel and Brent Friedman, creators of the 1996 NBC alien-themed series Dark Skies, say a man claiming to be Naval Intelligence showed up at their own premiere party already knowing what was in their unaired pilot, and offered them a trade: classified access for guidance on their future scripts. Texas Chainsaw Massacre and Poltergeist Director Tobe Hooper told Brent that Steven Spielberg got the same offer after Jaws, took the deal, and went on to make Close Encounters and E.T.. Separately, Brent Friedman says his family friend John Herrington who later became Secretary of Energy (Head of the entire Department of Energy) told him privately after a few drinks that aliens are real and he’s seen them. Official attempts have been made to get Herrington (now 87) to testify about these claims, but he’s ignored them. Friedman himself also reports of having had an encounter with a “Nordic” alien being. This was one of the wildest episodes we’ve ever filmed. Live now.

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Clips

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"We Are Watching You" Postcard
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Transcript preview

First 90 seconds

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  3. Bryce Zabel· Guest0:28

    I get a postcard to my home address, and it says in all caps in dark black, "We are watching you."

  4. Jesse Michels· Host0:37

    Oh my God.

  5. Bryce Zabel· Guest0:39

    I know. It was very unnerving.

  6. Jesse Michels· Host0:41

    What do you think put you on the radar of any of these people?

  7. Brent Friedman· Guest0:46

    [suspenseful music] Whoa.

  8. Bryce Zabel· Guest0:51

    Dark Skies was an NBC series about an alien invasion set in the 1960s.

  9. Jesse Michels· Host0:57

    Which you co-created.

  10. Bryce Zabel· Guest0:58

    Yes.

  11. Brent Friedman· Guest0:58

    I know.

  12. Bryce Zabel· Guest0:59

    We're running the show, and it's going to air that night. We say, "Let's have a party."

  13. Brent Friedman· Guest1:02

    I'm at a premier party with all of these, like, bigwigs in Hollywood, and some guy walks up.

  14. Bryce Zabel· Guest1:08

    And he says, "You guys got a lot right."

  15. Brent Friedman· Guest1:11

    "But you also got a lot wrong, and that's why I'm here." He just starts writing something on a piece of paper, and he goes, "Put this in a safety deposit box for about 10 to 15 years." I go, "What is this?" And he goes, "Secrets of the universe."

  16. Jesse Michels· Host1:23

    Whoa.

  17. Brent Friedman· Guest1:24

    Good night, folks. They're gonna tell us, like, when to write and how to write.

  18. Bryce Zabel· Guest1:29

    So how would that

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