Hilke Schellmann: Is Your New Boss a Robot?
2/26/20261 hr 14 min
AI isn’t just coming for your job — it might already be your manager. Trevor and Eugene sit down with investigative journalist Hilke Schellmann to examine how artificial intelligence has quietly infiltrated the workplace. From hiring software that analyzes your facial expressions to productivity trackers that monitor everything from your writing style to your bathroom breaks, Schellmann explains what these systems actually do — and what they get wrong.
Do they eliminate bias, automate it, or just hide it better? And what happens to human work when the algorithm is watching? You won’t want to miss this episode.
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First 90 secondsHilke Schellmann· Guest0:00
[upbeat music] What I have learned by, like, bringing AI into the talent acquisition hiring space, I learned, like, how bad our old processes are. Like, job interviews, actually really bad, um, because you are... Uh, it sort of filters out the people who are good about talking- Mm ... about doing the job.
Eugene Khoza· Host0:19
As opposed to doing the job.
Hilke Schellmann· Guest0:21
So we have this, like, competence versus confidence problem. Like, people who, like, come off as, like, confident, we often think, like, "Well, that person speaks so confidently-" They must be- "... about they must be really good." It turns out, like, that are more often than not men, um, and that doesn't mean actually they're competent. So we sometimes complain- [laughing] What?
Eugene Khoza· Host0:38
Us men? No.
Hilke Schellmann· Guest0:39
Never.
Eugene Khoza· Host0:40
What? [laughing] Us?
Hilke Schellmann· Guest0:41
So, you know.
Eugene Khoza· Host0:43
[laughing] You load us, Hilke? No.
Hilke Schellmann· Guest0:46
[laughing] As always, not all men, but a lot. Uh- [laughing] Us little men, ooh, acting like we know more than we do.
Eugene Khoza· Host0:55
Us? [laughing] [laughing] Come on, Hilke. Ooh.
Hilke Schellmann· Guest0:59
[laughing] Mansplaining. What?!
Trevor Noah· Host1:02
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