Hieu
8/5/20251 hr 34 min
All Hieu Minh Ngo wanted was to make money online. But when he stumbled into the dark web, he found more than just opportunity, he found a global dark market. What started as a side hustle turned into an international crime spree.Find Hieu on X: https://x.com/HHieupc.SponsorsSupport for this show comes from ThreatLocker®. ThreatLocker® is a Zero Trust Endpoint Protection Platform that strengthens your infrastructure from the ground up. With ThreatLocker® Allowlisting and Ringfencing™, you gain a more secure approach to blocking exploits of known and unknown vulnerabilities. Threa...
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First 90 secondsJack Rhysider· Host0:00
Um, I wanna make sure I pr- I pronounce your name right, so can you say your name for me?
Hieu Minh Ngô· Guest0:04
Uh, my name is Hieu Minh Ngô.
Jack Rhysider· Host0:06
Hieu was born in Vietnam.
Hieu Minh Ngô· Guest0:09
I'm growing up in a, a small town in Vietnam. It's called Cam Ranh. I was started to be a hacker when I was very young, maybe around, like, 14, 15 years old, and then ch- just ki- kinda like, out of, uh, curiosity, you know? Like, wondering about how the internet working, and, and, um, back then, the internet is very expensive and super slow. That's one of the reason that I started to hack and steal, uh, a few, um, internet dial-up accounts to be able to use it, uh, without p- paying any- anything. That's kinda like the my, my first time I got into trouble, when I was like 15 years old.
Jack Rhysider· Host1:04
This was around 2004, a time when 56K modems were the most popular way to get online, and the way it worked is you dialed a phone number and connected to the ISP that way, and they would connect you to the internet. But the ISP would charge you by the minute to go online. Can you imagine that? Being charged for every minute you're on the internet? That's how it worked back then. Hieu couldn't afford that, so he figured out a way to use someone else's account, basically stealing someone else's ISP