FREE SUBS TASTER: The Ariana Grande Panic
6/17/20262 min
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Ariana Grande is on a world tour. She is also on every phone screen in your vicinity right now, her undeniably-tiny body analysed from every angle. 'We must do something' shouts one part of the Internet. 'Stop talking about women’s bodies!' Shouts the other.
And over here, Mia, Holly and Em sit down to unpack the panic around Ariana Grande.
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First 90 secondsEmily Vernem· Host0:01
You're listening to a Mamamia podcast.
Mia Freedman· Host0:03
For context, the reason that we're talking about this today is the internet is awash with people- Yeah ... in my opinion, concern-trolling Ariana Grande, saying she's really sick, she's clearly very unwell. We've seen this happen to celebrities before.
Amelia Lester· Host0:20
Karen Carpenter.
Mia Freedman· Host0:21
There's a TikTok doing the rounds comparing her to Karen Carpenter, who's a, a pop star from the 1970s, who died of anorexia.
Amelia Lester· Host0:28
Yeah.
Mia Freedman· Host0:28
Heart attack.
Amelia Lester· Host0:29
She was 32. I think that's around- Mm ... the age that Ariana Grande is.
Mia Freedman· Host0:32
And the commentary is very much like, "We need to do something."
Amelia Lester· Host0:36
Mm.
Mia Freedman· Host0:37
And my question about all of this is, what the fuck are we supposed to do?
Amelia Lester· Host0:41
Yeah.
Mia Freedman· Host0:41
[laughs] Right? Ariana Grande is a grown woman, right? She has... Anyone who knows anything about Ariana Grande knows she's weathered quite a lot of emotional storms.
Amelia Lester· Host0:50
Mm.
Mia Freedman· Host0:50
Like, she's been through a lot of shit- Mm ... and she's also been famous since she was tiny, which we all know- Mm ... isn't always the most emotionally healthy start- Yeah ... for a lot of people. So she's been through a lot of stuff. She is an exceptional performer.
Amelia Lester· Host1:02
Yeah.
Mia Freedman· Host1:02
Like, her voice is a once-in-a-generation voice.
Amelia Lester· Host1:05
Yeah.
Mia Freedman· Host1:05
I couldn't argue for a second that it isn't alarming to look at her. It is, right?
Amelia Lester· Host1:10
Mm.
Mia Freedman· Host1:10
It, it really is. There's no... She looks so frail.
Amelia Lester· Host1:12
Mm.
Mia Freedman· Host1:13
But my question about all this, "We've stood by before-" Mm. "... what we can't stand by again," is like- Mm ... and what?
Amelia Lester· Host1:20
I know.
Mia Freedman· Host1:21
Like, the internet is talking about nothing else than Ariana Grande's body. What, what, what's the thing we're supposed to be doing?
Amelia Lester· Host1:27
That's such a good question, and I've been