Farage Crawls Out, Riots Break Out & Bartlett's Three Glasses of Wine
6/3/202651 min
Marina and Jemma kick things off with a spirited takedown of "optimisation culture" - sparked by a viral clip of Diary of a CEO's Stephen Bartlett dramatically declaring that three glasses of wine ruined his life (his Whoop watch told him so). Marina and Jemma are not having it. Yes, sleep matters, yes, balance is key - but why are we KPI-ing ourselves into misery? As Marina puts it: you don't need to arrive in your coffin in pristine condition FFS.
Then things get darker. Marina and Jemma turn to the heartbreaking and senseless murder of Henry Nowak in Southampton and the utterly vile opportunism that followed - Nigel Farage crawling out from under his rock (after missing 77 consecutive parliamentary votes, by the way) to tell people to feel "cold rage," while Elon Musk and Tommy Robinson piled on. The family asked for unity. These people chose riots.
There's also the ongoing Reform chaos, including a truly painful interview with would-be MP Robert Kenyon, whose main defence for not understanding maternity policy is essentially "it doesn't affect me." Checks out.
They close on some much-needed lightness: a Springsteen lyric that will ruin a song for you forever, a brilliant man absolutely flooring a misogynist in debate, and a stunning Emmy speech from journalist Josh Rushing that, just about, restores your faith in humanity. Three glasses of wine optional...
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First 90 secondsSpeaker 1· Soundbite0:00
If reform scraps the Equality Act as promised, hundreds of thousands of women could lose workplace protections. Um, how does that sit with you?
Robert Kenyon· Soundbite0:08
Again, I'd have to, you know, it's... I'd have to have a good look into it to, to see which protections. You know, I wouldn't like to make a snap judgment on something so important.
Marina Purkiss· Host0:15
[upbeat music] Hello, and welcome to The Trawl, where we gather up the week's political loose ends, mixed messages, and own goals, and attempt to make sense of them. I'm Marina Purkiss.
Gemma Forte· Host0:36
And I'm Gemma Forte. And Marina- Mm ... it's Wednesday, Wednesday, uh, midweek, so kind of the point I get to where I think I need a little tipple perhaps.
Marina Purkiss· Host0:49
[laughs] You had one yesterday. Don't even lie. She had three glasses yesterday. She admitted it pre-record.
Gemma Forte· Host0:55
I've been a busy girl. And actually looking forward to this weekend very much, because on Friday you and I are both going to a dinner party, and I love a dinner party. We're actually going to Yasmine Alabya-Brown's, the journalist, amazing woman. So we'll be having a lovely catch-up, and I suspect some incredible food. I've heard rumors.
Marina Purkiss· Host1:13
Mm.
Gemma Forte· Host1:13
She's a fabulous cook.
Marina Purkiss· Host1:14
Mm-hmm.
Gemma Forte· Host1:15
And enjoying a, yeah, just a, just a few glasses of wine.
Marina Purkiss· Host1:18
Just a few. Not too many.
Gemma Forte· Host1:19
No.
Marina Purkiss· Host1:20
In fact, certainly not three, 'cause if you have three glasses, Gemma- Yeah ... it can ruin your life.
Gemma Forte· Host1:26
Oh, right.
Marina Purkiss· Host1:26
'Cause it apparently ruined Steven Bartlett's life. He's the guy from the