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Khloé in Wonder Land

Escaping Polygamy and Starting Over ft. Ashley Sandmire

2/18/202659 min

Khloé sits down with Ashley Sandmire, who was raised in a polygamist community and left the religion as a young mom. Ashley shares what it was like growing up with dozens of siblings, watching harmful dynamics play out, and feeling pressure to live a life that never felt right. From grief and loss to therapy, healing, and choosing a new future for her kids, this episode is a powerful conversation about breaking generational cycles and learning to live authentically, even when it’s hard.

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Clips

“They knew, and allowed creeps”
Motherhood sparked the escape
“Get up, get the fuck out”
Shared loss, unexpected connection
Religious OCD after leaving
“Do I have to share you?”
Her mom finally leaves
“Do you have Nam siblings?”
A visit from her brother
Breakoffs after the Manifesto

Transcript preview

First 90 seconds

  1. Ashley Sandmire· Guest0:00

    Things that I wish that I knew when my husband and I left the polygamous religion we were born and raised in. I thought that I was going to have to share him and have sister wives. We were told to lie about it. As I have had the most bizarre, crazy shit happen. My brother took his life a little over eight years ago. This has gotta stop.

  2. Khloé Kardashian· Host0:16

    Your story's so fascinating. You have gone through so much. Tell me about your childhood.

  3. Ashley Sandmire· Guest0:22

    My dad had 46 kids. He was abusive in every way. It was always taught, you do what the man says and you will obey. The brainwashing and the toll that it takes, that's scary. I got married at 18. Who the hell let me do that? He was like, "I don't know if I want multiple wives."

  4. Khloé Kardashian· Host0:39

    I would be like, "Am I enough?"

  5. Ashley Sandmire· Guest0:41

    When I gave birth to my daughter, me and my husband were like, "She can't live like that."

  6. Khloé Kardashian· Host0:45

    Is your story gonna be something you're gonna be just very honest about?

  7. Ashley Sandmire· Guest0:49

    What is even appropriate to tell a seven-year-old?

  8. Khloé Kardashian· Host0:51

    Do you ever get scared that you left the church?

  9. Ashley Sandmire· Guest0:53

    There's a lot of fear. I know that there are people living that way that don't want to, and they don't know how to get out.

  10. Khloé Kardashian· Host0:59

    What do you want people to take away?

  11. Ashley Sandmire· Guest1:01

    I felt bitter and angry because of the way that I grew up, but you can't live life like that. Get up, get the fuck out, and leave.

  12. Khloé Kardashian· Host1:08

    [gentle music] So Ashley, thank you for being here on Chloe in Wonderland. You did, I think it was a podcast for someone else, and I saw it on TikTok, and you were talking about your story and all that you've been through. And your story's so fascinating, but something

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