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Epic Fury has ended, now what? - with Ed Husain and Nadav Eyal

5/7/202644 min

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The Iran war is coming to an end. What leverage do Israel and the U.S. have for what comes next?

Dan Senor is joined by Ed Husain and Nadav Eyal to unpack the fragile aftermath of the U.S.-Israel war with Iran. As Washington signals that the operation is over, Iran is still testing the Strait of Hormuz, its nuclear program remains unresolved, and the regime’s internal fractures may now matter as much as its military capabilities. They discuss what Iran thinks it has won, what the U.S. and Israel actually achieved, and whether the next front is no longer the battlefield, but inside Iran itself.

Read Ed’s article, Iran is Not a Monolith: The Case for Exploiting the Country’s Internal Fractures.

In this episode:

- What “the operation is over” actually means

- Iran’s strategy at the Strait of Hormuz

- Why Tehran may believe it won the war

- What remains of Iran’s nuclear program

- The IRGC’s grip on the regime

- Why economic pressure may not be enough

- Can Iran’s internal fractures bring down the regime?

- Israel’s return to a shadow-war strategy

- The regional alliance needed after the war

- What the U.S. must do to avoid a nuclear Iran and a closed strait

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Credits: Ilan Benatar, Brittany Cohen, Ava Weiner, Martin Huergo, Mariangeles Burgos, and Yuval Semo

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First 90 seconds
  1. Dan Senor· Host0:00

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  2. Nadav Eyal· Guest1:02

    [instrumental music] You are listening to an Ark Media podcast.

  3. Ed Husain· Guest1:13

    To leave the Straits of Hormuz in Iranian control, especially Iranian government control, is to let the Iranians, A, say they won, B, build back better, C, threaten the Israelis and Arab countries and the ballistic missiles that

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