Ep 1358 | Matt Chandler & the Robertsons Call Out the Fake Gospel of Instant Fixes
6/18/202656 min
Jase, Al, Zach, and Christian sit down with Matt Chandler, lead pastor of The Village Church and author of “Becoming Like Jesus,” to talk about Matt’s rough childhood, the church camp that changed his life, and why following Jesus is usually slower, messier, and more painful than people expect. Jase remembers taking a beating instead of fighting back and watching the man who attacked him later come to church wanting to hear about Jesus. The guys also dig into why suffering can expose what God wants to heal, and why the church is still the place where flawed people learn to love — and sometimes simply tolerate — one another.
In this episode: Luke 15, verse 17; Hebrews 12, verse 2; Isaiah 61, verse 3; Matthew 5, verses 3–12; Psalm 27, verse 4; 1 Corinthians 15, verses 1–2; 1 Corinthians 6, verses 9–11; Exodus 13, verses 17–18; Romans 5, verses 3–5; James 1, verses 2–4
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Chapters
00:00 The Best Thing About Being a Pastor
11:35 Matt’s Rough Childhood & First Glimpse of Jesus
17:22 The Camp Sermon That Changed Matt’s Life
23:50 Life’s Lowest Moments Are the Most Important
29:50 Knowing Jesus Isn’t Like Flipping a Switch
34:22 Jase Takes a Beating Instead of Fighting Back
39:33 The Gospel Is More Than Grinding It Out
44:04 Jesus Doesn’t Want Distance from Us
50:10 Deep Work, Over Time, In Community
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Al Robertson· Host0:58
[upbeat music] I am unashamed. What about you? This is a show, it's, it's Seinfeld meets a Bible study. It's, it's, it's my people. [laughs] It's a podcast about nothing. Yeah. It's my people. [laughs] Me- meets a Bible study. Meets a Bible study. Sort of a Bible study. Exactly.
Christian Huff· Panelist1:14
I'm sorry.
Al Robertson· Host1:14
Well, old Jace was trying to get into the Bible last time, so I don't know. Well, I preached- Dave put him to work ... I preached my whole sermon, Matt. So welcome to Unashamed, by the way. We're rolling. Uh, we got Matt Chandler in the house today. Matt, welcome to Unashamed.
Matt Chandler· Guest1:27
Well, it's good to be in Monroe.
Al Robertson· Host1:29
Yeah. We're