Elon Musk
12/9/20251 hr 28 min
A biography that dares to ask: Is a lifetime of worker abuse and narcissism worth it to experience robot butlers?
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Sources:
- What Elon Musk Gets Wrong about South Africa
- Elon Musk’s Anti-Semitic, Apartheid-Loving Grandfather
- Elon Musk claims he was once one of the best Quake players around
- Watch Elon Musk Talk About Being an ‘Illegal Immigrant’ in Video From 2013
- Elon Musk’s dad Errol says he can ‘prove’ existence of emerald mine in new bombshell claim revealing its location
- How Elon Musk Went from Superhero to Supervillain
- The Believer
- Elon Musk: The Architect of Tomorrow
- How Elon Musk Plans on Reinventing the World (and Mars)
- Tesla factory workers reveal pain, injury and stress: 'Everything feels like the future but us' | Tesla
- Hundreds of Tesla workers tested positive for the virus after Elon Musk reopened a plant, data shows
- Inside Tesla as Elon Musk Pushed an Unflinching Vision for Self-Driving Cars
- Tesla video promoting self-driving was staged, engineer testifies
- Elon Musk Says His 'Running Robot' Will 'Actually Eliminate Poverty' As He Shares Video Of Tesla Optimus Jogging
- Elon Musk Wants ‘Strong Influence’ Over the ‘Robot Army’ He’s Building
- There’s a Very Simple Pattern to Elon Musk’s Broken Promises
Thanks to Mindseye for our theme song!
Clips
Transcript preview
First 90 secondsMichael Hobbes· Host0:00
This is, like, not a bit. I, like, genuinely don't have a zinger. The only, (laughs) the only thing I could come up with is, "Be straight, do grimes."
Peter Shamshiri· Host0:07
I... That's really offensive to straight people, I feel like. (laughs) Um, by the way, um...
Michael Hobbes· Host0:12
Oh.
Peter Shamshiri· Host0:12
... the beverage center has maintained some element of meme status.
Michael Hobbes· Host0:15
It's escaped containment?
Peter Shamshiri· Host0:17
(laughs) I have people, I have people posting it at me. (laughs) And I'm like, "Shit."
Michael Hobbes· Host0:22
(laughs) Just photos of beverage centers?
Peter Shamshiri· Host0:24
Well, I, I think that they're trying to make the accurate point that I am a, a bougie young man.
Michael Hobbes· Host0:29
Well, yeah.
Peter Shamshiri· Host0:29
I also don't know how many people realize how bougie I can be.
Michael Hobbes· Host0:32
Yeah, that's also... They don't know about your sweaters or your watches.
Peter Shamshiri· Host0:35
They don't know about the sweaters. (laughs) They don't know that I'm the light jacket king of New Jersey.
Michael Hobbes· Host0:39
And you... (laughs) And you have a podcast with a gay man who only shops at Goodwill. (laughs) I feel like we're doing, like, gender as a social construct.
Peter Shamshiri· Host0:45
We're c- We're combating stereotypes so effectively.
Michael Hobbes· Host0:48
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. I have one, I have one. Okay.
Peter Shamshiri· Host0:51
Okay.
Michael Hobbes· Host0:51
I finally came up with a zinger, Peter.
Peter Shamshiri· Host0:52
Michael.
Michael Hobbes· Host0:53
Peter.
Peter Shamshiri· Host0:54
What do you know about Elon Musk?
Michael Hobbes· Host0:56
All I know is that I'm happy to finally have a reason to get a bumper sticker that says, "I made this podcast after Elon went crazy."
Peter Shamshiri· Host1:03
(instrumental music) This is Walter Isaacson's 2023 biography of Elon Musk. Do you know anything about Walter Isaacson?
Michael Hobbes· Host1:25
Uh, he did the Steve Jobs book, right?
Peter Shamshiri· Host1:26
Yeah. He is a journalist, uh, spent