Dom Joly Changes His Mind on Islamism, Lebanon & Britain’s Future

Dom Joly· Guest0:00

God, am I gonna come out of this just agreeing with you? Hello.

Andrew Gold· Host0:03

You grew up in, in Lebanon at the time of the civil war. A lot of people are concerned about what some people have called the Lebanonization of Europe.

Dom Joly· Guest0:10

Lebanon.

Andrew Gold· Host0:10

Lebanon.

Dom Joly· Guest0:11

No, Lebanon.

Andrew Gold· Host0:13

Lebanon.

Dom Joly· Guest0:13

Yeah. There we go. That's it. So what's your right-wing part, apart from banning all Muslims?

Andrew Gold· Host0:17

[laughs] I begrudgingly do that.

Dom Joly· Guest0:18

Yeah, but still.

Andrew Gold· Host0:19

I've seen what happened in so many countries in the Middle East.

Dom Joly· Guest0:22

But there's a difference in the Middle East. I mean, Lebanon specifically is a really important one because it was technically a majority Christian country.

Andrew Gold· Host0:28

Do you know that anywhere people versus somewhere people?

Dom Joly· Guest0:31

No.

Andrew Gold· Host0:31

Some people are somewhere people. They live in one street their entire lives.

Dom Joly· Guest0:35

And that street changes. No, I totally get that premise, and I'm... and actually, it softens me a little bit. That's a much more interesting description, and I really like that.

Andrew Gold· Host0:43

15 years ago, the BBC, Channel 4, they made documentaries about this. We've passed the event horizon. They can't make those documentaries anymore.

Dom Joly· Guest0:50

There's a level of wokery in our institutions which has gone absolutely crazy.

Andrew Gold· Host0:55

Have I brought new information to you?

Dom Joly· Guest0:56

Yes, 100%.

Andrew Gold· Host0:57

I wanted to make you more concerned about Islamism without hating individual Muslim people.

Dom Joly· Guest1:01

Your argument there was really interesting, and it was coherent, and it was balanced. What I want is someone that listens and someone that changes their mind when the facts change. God, am I gonna come out of this just- For those who don't know you, probably a small percentage of my audience- I thought a vast amount of your audience have no idea who I am.

Andrew Gold· Host1:16

I bet most, most do, but- I think I've probably argued with most of your audience in my comments on my social media. [laughs] That's possible. I've seen you popping in the comments on Facebook and all of that.

Dom Joly· Guest1:24

I just... I can't... I'm... Yeah, I've got a real problem. I can't... I just love arguing. Uh, and I do lots of traveling, so