Did the Pope just call Trump a tyrant?
4/16/202633 min
The Pope didn’t mention Trump by name. But speaking to a large congregation on his trip to Cameroon he warned that the world was being "ravaged by tyrants". Has he upped the ante in his war with the president? And as a man of God is he allowed to warn about unjust war - or is that a political intervention? And is this a beed Trump can't win? JD Vance has conveniently told him to stop pontificating on theology too.
Later - three weeks out from the May elections is Reform on the wane? Is Plaid on the march in Wales? And is Starmer experiencing an 'Iran bounce'? We’re with More in Common's Luke Tryl.
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First 90 secondsSpeaker 00:00
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Jon Sopel· Host0:05
It looks like there is only one winner in this battle, and it ain't Donald Trump.
Emily Maitlis· Host0:09
There was only one random dude screaming there, wasn't there?
Jon Sopel· Host0:12
They have tried to recruit God as a representative of MAGA.
Emily Maitlis· Host0:16
Trump doesn't realize he has just done a head-on collision with about fifteen hundred years of a theological tradition.
Jon Sopel· Host0:26
They're making themselves look like idiots.
Emily Maitlis· Host0:28
If I have to take sides, God damn it, I will.
Pope Leo· Soundbite0:31
The world is being ravaged by a handful of tyrants. It is held together by a multitude of supportive brothers and sisters.
Jon Sopel· Host0:41
The world is being ravaged by a handful of tyrants. Pope Leo doesn't mention Donald Trump there, but given the week of sulfurous exchanges between the Vatican and the White House, it's hard to believe he's not in the crosshairs.
Emily Maitlis· Host1:00
Have we found the man to take on President Trump? No less than the Pope himself. Welcome to the News Agents.
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Jon Sopel· Host1:16
It's John.
Emily Maitlis· Host1:17
It's Maitlis.
Jon Sopel· Host1:18
And it has been an extraordinary set of exchanges that have unfolded over the past week between Donald Trump and the Pope, with Donald Trump