David Frum and JVL: Iran Is Going to Make Trump Eat It
7/22/202650 min
Trump keeps promising more bombs and bigger explosions in Iran, but the regime knows he’s just trying to disguise his retreat. And the Iranians are not going to back down until the whole world can see that they beat Trump. Meanwhile, in the middle of a war that is ostensibly about stopping Iran from getting a nuke, POTUS just cut a deal with the Saudis for their own nuclear program. Plus: The failure of Republican senators to stand up to Trump may be out of fear of his voters, and are the American people or our political system more to blame for what ails the country?
David Frum joins guest host Jonathan V. Last.
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First 90 secondsJonathan V. Last· Host0:00
[upbeat music] Hello and welcome to the Bulwark podcast. I'm your host, JVL, sitting in for Tim Miller. Before we get to today's show and our guest, David Frum, couple programming reminders. We will not have new shows this Friday or next Friday. Some of the shows this week may be a little bit late because people like me operate on a different schedule than Tim. Thank you for your patience. Today, I am joined by a very old friend of mine, uh, and friend of the pod, David Frum of The Atlantic. I think probably the, the single most insightful writer in, like, our Trump age, and also the host of, uh, the David Frum Show over at The Atlantic. David, thanks for coming back.
David Frum· Guest0:55
Oh, thank you, and we have known each other since, since, I think, the first Clinton administration.
Jonathan V. Last· Host1:01
Yeah. [laughs] Wow. Okay, so because I think David's best point of leverage is talking about big picture stuff, we're gonna do that, but we do have to talk about some news of the day first. David, earlier this morning, the President of the United States, the Commander in Chief, announced that, uh, from this point forward, any time Iran fires on a ship in the Strait of Hormuz- Yeah ... he will be directing the US military to blow up a bridge