Culture Wars, Identity, and What Needs To Change In Congress (Sarah McBride)

Alastair Campbell· Host0:00

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Rory Stewart· Host0:12

[upbeat music] Welcome to The Rest Is Politics Leading with me, Rory Stewart.

Alastair Campbell· Host0:24

And with me, Alistair Campbell. And we are absolutely thrilled to be with somebody who's probably going to get really irritated when I interview her as the first transgender congresswoman [laughs] in the United States of America, because that is how she gets introduced wherever she goes, and eventually the world will get fed up with that and move on, but that is a fact. But Sarah McBride is in, still in her mid-30s. She's a Democrat from Delaware. She's somebody who has been a state senator. She's now in Congress, and she's absolutely perfect for this podcast, one, because she's an avid list- listener, she keeps telling us, but secondly, because she lives her politics by trying to disagree agreeably, even on an issue so close to her heart, which is transgender and the way that it's been weaponized by, particularly by many on the, the right. So thank you for being here. It's lovely to see you in person.

Rory Stewart· Host1:21

So tell us a little bit about your... I don't know, give us, give us your sort of 15-year-old self. If we'd met you age 15, what would we have thought? Would we have liked the 15-year-old