Creator Chats - Joe Fisher and Gabriel Urbina on "The Harbingers"
11/13/20251 hr 18 min
Please enjoy this chat between Joe and Gabriel Urbina, creator of Wolf 359 and the new show "The Harbingers," then stick around to hear the first episode!
More about The Harbingers:
Adam Blackwell is the most powerful man in the world. But he hasn't always been. Five years ago he was just a humble grad student at Sinclair University. How did he go from a nobody to the world's first modern magician? And once he got that power, what has he done with it?
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First 90 secondsJoe Fisher· Host0:00
I'll tell you one thing. I, what I want, what I do wanna do, I wanna, like, cold open. Here's, here's something I wanna ask you.
Gabriel Urbina· Guest0:05
Okay.
Joe Fisher· Host0:06
Because this, the, the new show, it is modern fantasy, one would say, right?
Gabriel Urbina· Guest0:12
Yes.
Joe Fisher· Host0:13
Okay. And then, and but now previously, you've also written science fiction.
Gabriel Urbina· Guest0:18
Yes.
Joe Fisher· Host0:20
And now let me, let me ask you, are there some times when you wanna punch fantasy writers right in their face? Let me explain what I mean. [laughs] Because, like, with fantasy, it's like things happen just because. Like, this is, like, the reason why this is happening in the story is because of the magical scroll, you know?
Gabriel Urbina· Guest0:41
Mm-hmm.
Joe Fisher· Host0:41
Whereas in sci-fi, you have to actually, like, find a reason why things are happening, and it's infuriating that they get to do that. It feels unfair to me. [laughs] You know?
Gabriel Urbina· Guest0:49
I mean, I- Maybe that's just me.
Joe Fisher· Host0:53
You know?
Gabriel Urbina· Guest0:54
I, I always... It, it's rare that I don't wanna punch people in the face. There, there, there's always some- [laughs] There's always a reason why I wanna punch someone in the face. Sooner or later- [laughs] ... the probability of me wanting to punch you in the face, it just approaches 100%, you know? Like, that's just the way it goes.
Joe Fisher· Host1:11
Yeah, it approaches one eventually.
Gabriel Urbina· Guest1:12
[laughs] Yes. But no, but look, I really subscribe to the notion of those stories, whether they are fantasy or science fiction, really tend to work better the more that the fantastical