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The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan

Conrad Flynn Part 2 | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan

2/25/20261 hr 39 min

On this provocative episode, Billy Corgan sits down with returning guest Conrad Flynn to explore the uneasy intersection of fame, power, the occult, and modern celebrity culture. Their conversation moves beyond headlines into the architecture of influence, the blurred lines between entertainment and politics, and the deeper question of who actually shapes the cultural narrative. They debate whether the surge of occult symbolism in pop is pure marketing, spiritual theater, or a reflection of something deeper—and whether rock’s once-defiant cultural voice has quietly been sidelined. Corgan also reflects on the personal cost of fame, the realities of industry m...

Clips

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Killing My Old Avatar
Why Do Crackdowns Happen?
QAnon As Counterintel
Rock Was Dialed Down
Kanye Pushed, Bad Behavior Ignored
Pop’s Exploitation Machine
Crowley, Pop Manager
Crowley’s Parliament Successor
Who Gets To Run The World?
Advice To A Young Star

Transcript preview

First 90 seconds

  1. Conrad Flynn· Guest0:00

    It's better off for everybody if we actually just don't start opening these doors.

  2. Billy Corgan· Host0:04

    If there was, if there was all this understanding and knowledge, why does it go on, and then why does it stop going?

  3. Conrad Flynn· Guest0:09

    They get into the occult, they, they do rituals, and it coincides with their success.

  4. Billy Corgan· Host0:14

    Right. The public can't help but get into an argument about is this or is this not true.

  5. Conrad Flynn· Guest0:18

    One of the British, um, members of Parliament, that was one of his colleagues.

  6. Billy Corgan· Host0:22

    Okay.

  7. Conrad Flynn· Guest0:22

    Jeffrey Epstein's essential father-in-law.

  8. Billy Corgan· Host0:24

    I have watched where incredibly powerful people seem to be above the law.

  9. Conrad Flynn· Guest0:28

    I mean, look what happened with, um, with, in the last few years with, with celebrities. Uh, I don't want to bring this up. When people- [laughs] [laughs] We gotta go viral here.

  10. Billy Corgan· Host0:37

    Keep going. Conrad Flynn, welcome back to the TMO Show.

  11. Conrad Flynn· Guest0:42

    Thank you for having me.

  12. Billy Corgan· Host0:43

    You're the first guest I've ever had back.

  13. Conrad Flynn· Guest0:45

    I, I'm excited. This is our own double album.

  14. Billy Corgan· Host0:46

    [laughs] Well, it's Kiss Alive II. [laughs] I think that's what we're going with. Um, anything you wanted to jump in on before I go down my particular rabbit hole? I mean, we've, we've, we've caught a little fire online.

  15. Conrad Flynn· Guest0:58

    Yeah. It- It's interesting.

  16. Billy Corgan· Host0:58

    We, good business together if, in wrestling parlance.

  17. Conrad Flynn· Guest1:02

    Yeah. Well, I, I wanna ask you about wrestling at some point.

  18. Billy Corgan· Host1:04

    Sure.

  19. Conrad Flynn· Guest1:04

    Yeah. Um, what, well, I'll actually ask you. Um, a friend of mine wanted me to ask, uh, you once said that in, in music, in rock history, uh, the logic of wrestling and marketing is very similar to how pop works in terms of pop stars are marketed or can be marketed in a way that's not unlike wrestling in terms of h- getting someone over, marketing.

  20. Billy Corgan· Host1:24

    Sure.

  21. Conrad Flynn· Guest1:25

    What kind of group. Uh, are there any acts, including The Smashing Pumpkins,

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