Con Men and Coercive Control: The Psychology of Deception with Sarah Ferris, Part 2
5/11/202652 min
Laura continues her interview with Sarah Ferris moving beyond the initial deception to unpack the deeper patterns, behaviours, and mindset of a conman - and what we must learn from it.
Laura and Sarah profile Peter Cowell, who posed as an Admiral, extracting money from senior leaders, veterans and even targeting former police detectives for an organisation he called IntSAR – the International Sea Air Rescue Service, a global humanitarian project with a military-style structure. It turns out, it is a work of fiction.
Drawing on both lived experience and behavioural analysis, Laura...
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First 90 secondsSpeaker 00:00
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Laura Richards· Host0:03
Nope, I'm making dinner tonight.
Speaker 00:05
You don't have time. Josh has practice.
Laura Richards· Host0:07
Oh, that's right. I'll just get a salad.
Speaker 00:09
And fries?
Laura Richards· Host0:09
No, just the salad.
Speaker 00:11
But salad cancels fries.
Laura Richards· Host0:12
Salad only.
Speaker 00:13
Fries.
Laura Richards· Host0:14
Salad.
Speaker 00:14
Fries.
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Sarah Ferris· Guest0:59
And what was the membership fee that was discussed?
Speaker 51:04
25 million US per year.
Sarah Ferris· Guest1:06
And so you're already thinking there's money sitting there just about to be transferred.
Speaker 51:10
We're thinking there's $700 million sitting there- Yeah ... just waiting for a meeting to happen.
Speaker 61:14
A 3.75 billion-dollar international search and rescue organization with admirals from all corners of the globe. But what if the admiral in charge wasn't quite what you'd