Cleo Abram: What Could Go Right?
2/5/20262 hr 9 min
Emmy-nominated video journalist Cleo Abram joins Trevor and Eugene to talk about Huge If True, her hit YouTube series that takes an optimistic approach to science and emerging technology. The three explore how asking “what could go right?” might be the most powerful tool we have for moving humanity forward, why optimism isn’t naïve but necessary, and how the physics of curling (the most divisive Olympic sport) can be used as an example of pessimism keeping us from imagining a better world.
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First 90 secondsTrevor Noah· Host0:00
[upbeat music] Oh, wait, let's talk about aliens, actually. [laughs] Eugene is a huge fan of aliens.
Cleo Abram· Guest0:09
I am also.
Eugene Khoza· Host0:09
We love aliens.
Cleo Abram· Guest0:10
Me too.
Trevor Noah· Host0:10
Have you- We love aliens. ... have you discovered anything, like- Apparently, we're close to making- So- -first contact in the next two years or so. You see? I love it. Now, we're at the party. He's just said that.
Cleo Abram· Guest0:19
Tell me more.
Eugene Khoza· Host0:20
Yeah. So there's a guy called- First, first, first, have your drink and say it. Oh- I think it, it sets the scene.
Cleo Abram· Guest0:23
We're at a party.
Speaker 30:25
[upbeat music] Hey, uh, um- So, aliens. Dum, dum, dum. [upbeat music] [laughs] Dum, dum, dum.
Eugene Khoza· Host0:31
[laughs] So there's an extraterrestrial- Dum ... uh, being that comes through a guy called Darryl Anka.
Speaker 30:37
Brr!
Eugene Khoza· Host0:38
[upbeat music] [laughs] [laughs] Don't you just hate it when your pessimistic friend is a DJ?
Trevor Noah· Host0:47
[laughs] [laughs] [upbeat music] This is What Now? with Trevor Noah.
Speaker 40:58
[upbeat music] You take your time. [laughs] You take your time. You just go ahead and take your time. Every moment, every second you need, you just take it.
Trevor Noah· Host1:17
Do they have that on, on YouTube? I know they have subtitles and dubbing, but can you dub to other accents? That would be dope.
Eugene Khoza· Host1:23
That would be nice.
Speaker 41:25
We should just have the whole- I mean, they let you- ... episode in a Southern accent.
Cleo Abram· Guest1:28
They... I think you should do