Bonus: The Lab Leak Goes Mainstream

Peter Shamshiri· Host0:00

... that's you and everyone else in journalism.

Mike· Host0:02

What?

Peter Shamshiri· Host0:02

Little DM buddies.

Mike· Host0:03

(laughs) Do you not DM buddy with other journalists?

Peter Shamshiri· Host0:05

No.

Mike· Host0:06

What? Really?

Peter Shamshiri· Host0:07

They don't talk to me, I don't talk to them. It's called respect.

Mike· Host0:09

(laughs) You're not in group chats with Marc Andreessen? I thought we were all in group chats with Marc Andreessen.

Peter Shamshiri· Host0:14

I don't even read journalism because that would color my opinion. (laughs) I just experience events.

Mike· Host0:20

Zing of Peter, or are we giving up on the zinger again?

Peter Shamshiri· Host0:22

Let's give up.

Mike· Host0:23

What do you know about years two through five of the lab leak?

Peter Shamshiri· Host0:26

I'm gonna be strategically looking for ways to bring back my joke about kissing the cats in the Wuhan market.

Mike· Host0:32

(laughs) I was gonna give you shit about that. That since I listened to the episode again and you didn't, I was gonna say, "Whatever joke you make on this episode, I'm just gonna silently go, 'You said that last time.'" (laughs) "That's actually what you said last time."

Peter Shamshiri· Host0:43

I would not be surprised if my brain reproduces jokes thinking that they're original.

Mike· Host0:47

You know, in, in, in Spain, they call it la bleak- (laughs) ... because it is. That one's good. (laughs) You're not laughing because of how good it is. (laughs) That's what I'm getting at. That's the signal that I'm getting. It's actually so good.

Peter Shamshiri· Host0:58

It is funny that we're like, two and a half years later, it's like, "I still think we can pin this on the Chinese, if we tried."

Mike· Host1:05

(laughs) That, let's go with that. Fuck it. So, we are once again returning to the lab leak theory. This episode is based on two