Bonus Episode: Mafia Murders and the Music Behind Them
6/4/202634 min
Adele’s love of Al Pacino led us into a Mafia/Music Murder Rabbit Hole. Help us climb out of it in this bonus episode. Plus your voicemails, texts, emails, comments, DMs—and as always, a whole lotta Rosie.
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First 90 secondsSpeaker 10:00
[electronic music] This is exactly right.
Jake Brennan· Host0:03
[upbeat music] Double Elvis.
DJ Hester Prin0:11
When you feel uncomfortable, what do you put on?
Jake Brennan· Host0:16
Biggie.
DJ Hester Prin0:17
You put on Biggie when you feel uncomfortable?
Jake Brennan· Host0:18
'Cause I wanna get confident.
DJ Hester Prin0:19
This is DJ Hester Prin's Music as Therapy, a weekly podcast from me, a DJ and licensed therapist. It's Mental Health Month. Let's figure out what actually works.
Jake Brennan· Host0:29
I didn't care about my life circumstance when I listened to that stuff. It didn't matter to me.
DJ Hester Prin0:33
This isn't just a podcast. It's unconventional therapy for you every day. Open your free iHeartRadio app, search DJ Hester Prin's Music as Therapy, and start listening now.
Speaker 40:43
Before NXIVM, Nancy Salzman wanted to help people.
Nancy Salzman· Soundbite0:46
Being able to help somebody, it's probably the biggest motivator of my entire life.
Speaker 40:51
She trained in something called neuro-linguistic programming.
Nancy Salzman· Soundbite0:54
People loved our training.
Speaker 40:55
Then everything changed.
Nancy Salzman· Soundbite0:58
Yeah, and they called it a cult.
Speaker 40:59
How does a method designed to improve lives end up in a cult?
Nancy Salzman· Soundbite1:03
A knife in the hands of a surgeon is an amazing tool. A knife in the hands of a murderer is a weapon.
Speaker 41:10
Listen to Mind Games on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Jake Brennan· Host1:16
[gentle music] You know the famous author Roald Dahl. He thought up Willy Wonka and the BFG, but did you know he was a spy? Neither did I. You can hear all about his wildlife story

