Apple vs. OpenAI
7/15/202618 min
Apple sued OpenAI and one of its top executives on Friday, alleging the AI company stole trade secrets as part of its effort to develop competing devices. WSJ’s Rolfe Winkler unpacks the explosive filing and explores what it might mean for the tech landscape. Ryan Knutson hosts.
Further Listening:
- Tim Cook Built the Apple Empire. What's Next for His Successor?
- Artificial: The OpenAI Story
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First 90 secondsRyan Knutson· Host0:00
[music] Last year, OpenAI released a promotional video featuring CEO Sam Altman.
Speaker 2· Soundbite0:12
I think we have the opportunity here to kind of completely reimagine what it means to use a computer.
Ryan Knutson· Host0:17
[car whooshing] [music] In it, he's chatting with the famous product designer Jony Ive.
Speaker 2· Soundbite0:22
Sam is a rare visionary. He shoulders- Jony Ive used to be synonymous with Apple, but here he was cozying up with the CEO of OpenAI. Jony is the deepest thinker of anyone I've ever met. What that leads him to be able to come up with is unmatched.
Ryan Knutson· Host0:46
[music] This video is kind of a love fest, but it was also an announcement. OpenAI was getting into hardware. It was going to make an AI device, and Jony Ive, who spent almost 30 years at Apple, was gonna lead the team to do this.
Rolfe Winkler· Guest1:07
To basically displace Apple, to create a family of devices that will be built for the age of AI, that will be different from our smartphones, something new to build our lives around.
Ryan Knutson· Host1:22
Our colleague Rolf Winkler covers the tech industry, and he says OpenAI has been hiring a lot of former Apple employees and putting them to

