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ANCIENT HISTORY EXPERT: ‘What If Ancient Egypt Was More Advanced Than Us?’

6/1/20261 hr 3 min

This week on The Karl Stefanovic Show.

A mind-bending conversation with Ben van Kerkwyk exploring some of the biggest mysteries in human history.

From the alleged labyrinth buried beneath Egypt, to the possibility humanity has completely misunderstood ancient civilisations, Ben breaks down the theories capturing millions online — and why some researchers believe advanced engineering and knowledge may have existed thousands of years earlier than we think.

Karl asks the obvious question:

If discoveries beneath Egypt could rewrite history… why aren’t people like Joe Rogan or Elon Musk funding the excavation themselves?

The conversation dives into black holes, consciousness, lost technology, ancient construction techniques, and whether modern society is more fragile than we realise.

It’s one of the wildest conversations we’ve had yet. Watch now.

Clips

40-Meter Metallic Tic Tac
Labyrinth Report Suppressed
Discovery Of The Millennium
Species With Amnesia
Simulation Meltdown
Worthy Of The Stars?

Transcript preview

First 90 seconds

  1. Karl Stefanovic· Host0:00

    And a familiar voice in a foreign land. How you been?

  2. Ben van Kerkwyk· Guest0:02

    [laughs] Indeed, yes. Good. Yeah, pleasure to meet you, mate.

  3. Karl Stefanovic· Host0:06

    Yeah, you too, my friend. You too. I mean, I saw you on Rogan, and I've gone, "Who is this, like- [laughs] ... super smart guy with an Aussie accent?" And I've just deep dived on you. How did it come to pass?

  4. Ben van Kerkwyk· Guest0:18

    How did it come to pass?

  5. Karl Stefanovic· Host0:20

    Mm-hmm.

  6. Ben van Kerkwyk· Guest0:20

    The Rogan stuff?

  7. Karl Stefanovic· Host0:21

    Yeah.

  8. Ben van Kerkwyk· Guest0:21

    Or just everything? Well, uh, yeah, I mean, he's... I'm just lucky guys like him are fans of the topic, I guess. Um, uh, he- you know, he's, he's done a lot for guys like Graham Hancock, some other people in this field. I know a lot... I mean, I'm friends with Graham as well, but yeah, he reached out. I mean, eventually they... I don't know. He, he... The video takes his interest. I was first on there a couple years ago, but then he kind of followed our... He just, he had my details and got ahold of me, and, uh, he, when I did the video about the labyrinth, that just fascinated him.

  9. Karl Stefanovic· Host0:49

    You know, I'm fascinated, I'm fascinated by what he does and how he does an interview. It's like he gets great responses from people, right? And I just think sometimes it's because people are scared that he's gonna beat the shit out of them.

  10. Ben van Kerkwyk· Guest0:59

    [laughs] [laughs] He's very unassuming. He's very, uh... I mean, for, for, I guess is famous and, I mean, he's very down to earth. Like, he's, he just seems really grounded, so.

  11. Karl Stefanovic· Host1:10

    What's the process like?

  12. Ben van Kerkwyk· Guest1:11

    I mean, he has a studio manager, and then Jamie's just a giant studio out in a industrial park kinda thing. A big, giant building. The studio's kind of the taunt, the smallest room in it. Um, but yeah, he just sets it up. I, I honestly think he's just, I think he's just trying to have interesting conversations. I think he, he just wants to- Definitely ... he likes to talk about this stuff,

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