A.I. Safety Is So Back + Mythos Mayhem with Nikesh Arora + Hot Mess Express
5/15/20261 hr 8 min
This week, between the president’s negotiations in China and a potential executive order, we discuss why the Trump administration seems to be changing its tune on A.I. safety. Then, Nikesh Arora, chief executive of Palo Alto Networks, the largest cybersecurity company in the world, gives us a firsthand account of where we stand in the race to secure the internet. And finally, we run through some of the wildest headlines of the week in a round of Hot Mess Express.
Guest:
- Nikesh Arora, chief executive and chairman of Palo Alto Networks.
Additional Reading:
- White House Considers Vetting A.I. Models Before They Are Released
- Chief Executives to Accompany Trump to China
- Is Anthropic’s New A.I. Really That Scary? It Depends Whom You Ask.
- Venmo Finally Takes Privacy Seriously
- Amazon Staff Use A.I. Tool for Unnecessary Tasks to Inflate Usage Scores
- Graduates Boo Commencement Speech About A.I.
- Dua Lipa Files $15 Million Suit Against Samsung for Using Her Face to Sell TVs
- EBay Rejects GameStop’s $55 Billion Takeover Bid
- Shein, Temu Trade Blows as UK Trial Spotlights Supply Chains
- People Are Seriously Pissed That Grindr Outed Them With Its Latest Madonna Advert
- Sam Altman Testifies That Elon Musk Wanted Control of OpenAI
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Kevin Roose· Host0:33
Casey, will you record my audiobook for me?
Casey Newton· Host0:36
Yes, I would love to, actually.
Kevin Roose· Host0:38
Okay, thanks. Yeah, 'cause I got the briefing yesterday on what this would entail for me.
Casey Newton· Host0:42
Mm-hmm.
Kevin Roose· Host0:43
Uh, they want 36 hours in the studio to record this audiobook.
Casey Newton· Host0:48
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Kevin Roose· Host0:54
Yeah.
Casey Newton· Host0:54
[laughs] That's, like, almost a full week.
Kevin Roose· Host0:56
I know.
Casey Newton· Host0:56
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Kevin Roose· Host0:58
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Casey Newton· Host1:04
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Kevin Roose· Host1:19
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Casey Newton· Host1:24
Yeah, a little, a little extra commentary on the side. [laughs] Like, "Oh, I see we're using that transition again.