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AI is turning every company into a software company

6/18/202626 min

As AI capabilities accelerate, nearly anyone can create software. The real business constraint is no longer code, but judgment: how quickly an organization can learn, adapt, and redeploy talent at scale. In this episode of The McKinsey Podcast, Snowflake CEO Sridhar Ramaswamy joins McKinsey’s North America Chair Eric Kutcher to dig into how AI is industrializing intelligence, supercharging productivity, and forcing leaders to rethink everything from pricing models to workforce strategy.

In this recurring series on The McKinsey Podcast, Eric speaks with top CEOs about the practice of leadership

The McKinsey Podcast is cohosted by Lucia Rahilly and Roberta Fusaro.

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  1. Lucia Rahilly· Host0:00

    [upbeat music] Hey, everyone. In this episode of the McKinsey Podcast, Eric Kutcher, our North American managing partner, sits down with Snowflake CEO, Sridhar Ramaswamy. The two of them have a good talk about AI's impact on business, the future of work, and why curiosity and adaptability may actually be more important than having a perfect plan. Roberta, one thing that struck me about this conversation is that even the CEO of a major tech company admits that he's trying to figure all this out in real time.

  2. Roberta Fusaro· Host0:37

    Amen, Lucia. I, I like that aspect of the interview, too. The discussion, to me, it feels like a really honest exploration of what's changing with AI and what isn't changing with AI. Plus, there's some thoughtful reflections on leadership, career growth, and learning in... A-as we're all experiencing these moments of disruption. It's really interesting stuff.

  3. Lucia Rahilly· Host1:01

    Yeah. Let's take a listen.

  4. Eric Kutcher· Host1:03

    [upbeat music] So I'm joined today by Sridhar Ramaswamy, CEO of Snowflake. Sridhar, it is so great to, to be with you.

  5. Sridhar Ramaswamy· Guest1:17

    Eric, I've been looking forward to this conversation.

  6. Eric Kutcher· Host1:19

    Likewise. Likewise. We talked about this moment that we are living in, and you are at the center of this moment, right? If you think about what's going on from the AI, just in your own words, kind

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