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A journey to help thousands of horses and revive an ancient tradition

5/1/202651 min

Filmmaker Kasimir Burgess travelled to Mongolia to follow two young men on their gruelling journey to bring 2000 horses to safer pastures during an exceptionally brutal winter.

For centuries, the herders of Tsakhir Valley in Mongolia have protected their horses from the harsh winters by nominating their bravest young men to move them.

But the ancient practice has been forced to stop in recent years due to climate change.  Iron Winter documents one community's attempt to revive the tradition by initiating two friends into a rite of passage in danger of being lost.

Further information 

The documentary Iron Winter had a national cinematic release earlier this year.

This episode of Conversations was produced by Jen Leake, the executive producer was Eliza Kirsch.

It explores Mongolia horse culture, the Mongolian Steppes, severe weather, ancient traditions and culture, family, mental health, art, films, documentary, viral meningitis, childhood leukaemia, adventure, grief.

To binge even more great episodes of the Conversations podcast with Richard Fidler and Sarah Kanowski go the ABC listen app (Australia) or wherever you get your podcasts. There you’ll find hundreds of the best thought-provoking interviews with authors, writers, artists, politicians, psychologists, musicians, and celebrities.

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  1. Casimir Burgess· Guest0:00

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  2. Sarah Kanowski· Host0:05

    Genghis Khan apparently said, "It's easy to conquer the world from the back of a horse." And the founder of the Mongol Empire did just that. Horses and horsemanship continue to be central to Mongolian culture and identity. For Mongolians, horses have a deep spiritual significance, and it is a mark of a person's character how well they treat their horses. Winter in Mongolia is brutal. Temperatures can plummet to minus 50 degrees. And for centuries, there's been a tradition of small groups of herders bringing horses to fresh pastures, and it's a rite of passage for Mongolian nomads, one which demands phenomenal survival skills and incredible grit. A new Australian documentary called Iron Winter follows two young horse herders in their four-month journey with thousands of horses across the beautiful but unforgiving Mongolian steppes. It's directed by Casimir Burgess. Hi, Casimir.

  3. Casimir Burgess· Guest1:15

    Hi, Sarah.

  4. Sarah Kanowski· Host1:17

    How did you hear about this Mongolian tradition of the winter horse migration in the first place?

  5. Casimir Burgess· Guest1:24

    Yeah, look, it's a rather convoluted story, but, [chuckles] um, I sold

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