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A Defense of a Liberal Arts Education in the Age of A.I.

5/21/20261 hr 3 min

What’s really driving the humanities crisis in higher education? As enrollment and reading decline, I asked Jennifer Frey, a professor of philosophy, what it was like to run a liberal arts program that was gutted. I wanted to know whether she thinks the age of A.I. could bring back the kind of education she says is fundamental to human formation.

  • 00:00 - Intro
  • 2:08 - Why study the humanities?
  • 5:00 - Do the humanities mean more morality?
  • 15:00 - Shakespeare vs. John Grisham
  • 24:07 - The Tulsa Honors College
  • 34:43 - Left-wing critiques and specialization
  • 44:10 - Is conservatism a friend to liberal arts?
  • 56:32 - Why the humanities are crucial in the age A.I.

(A full transcript of this episode is available on the Times website.)

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  1. Speaker 10:00

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  2. Jennifer Frey· Guest0:29

    So what you hear people saying now, "Well, because AI is changing the workforce, we now need the humanities for these soft skills that are now incredibly important."

  3. Ross Douthat· Host0:41

    Mm-hmm.

  4. Jennifer Frey· Guest0:41

    And, um- I've, I've, I may have said that to myself, contemplating my own children's future, yes. Yes. This is the, exactly the wrong case.

  5. Ross Douthat· Host0:49

    Okay. [upbeat music] Jennifer Frey, welcome to Interesting Times.

  6. Jennifer Frey· Guest1:10

    Thank you so much for having me. I'm thrilled to be here.

  7. Ross Douthat· Host1:12

    So I am, like you, I think, a book person. And I feel like for basically, if not my entire life, at least my entire adult life, I have been living in the shadow of the decline of

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