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#97 - Senator Alex Antic - Roberts-Smith, Immigration, Energy Chaos & ASIO Powers

4/23/20261 hr 17 min

🎙 In This Episode of the 2 Worlds Collide Podcast, I sit down with Senator Alex Antic — for a direct and unfiltered conversation about some of the biggest and most controversial issues facing Australia right now.

We dive into the Ben Roberts-Smith defamation case — unpacking the national debate, media coverage, and what this situation means for veterans, accountability, and public trust.

We also explore global instability — including recent fires at oil refineries around the world — and what that could mean for energy security, supply chains, and Australia’s future.

Beyond that, we get into immigration — how current levels are impacting housing, infrastructure, and the broader direction of the country — and why it’s become one of the most debated topics leading into upcoming elections.

We also discuss the ASIO Amendment Bill 2026 — what it proposes, the concerns around government powers, and what it could mean for everyday Australians.

This is a raw, honest conversation about politics, national security, and the future of Australia.

🧭 In This Episode We Cover: 🪖 The Ben Roberts-Smith case and national debate 🌍 Global refinery fires and energy security concerns 🏡 Immigration, housing, and population pressures ⚖️ The ASIO Amendment Bill 2026 explained 📉 Public trust, media narratives, and government power 🇦🇺 The direction Australia is heading

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First 90 seconds
  1. Speaker 00:00

    [upbeat music] One, two, three, four. Yeah.

  2. Sam Bamford· Host0:13

    Hi, guys. Welcome back to Two Eves Glide Podcast. On today's episode, we have Senator Alex Antic. I hope you guys enjoy this. And, uh, you're facing over this way.

  3. Alex Antic· Guest0:21

    That's all right.

  4. Sam Bamford· Host0:21

    Mate, way to go.

  5. Alex Antic· Guest0:22

    All right.

  6. Sam Bamford· Host0:22

    And, uh, Alex Antic, mate, welcome back.

  7. Alex Antic· Guest0:25

    Yeah, thanks. It's- Round, round two ... round two. It hasn't been long. We, we missed so much.

  8. Sam Bamford· Host0:29

    [laughs] Yeah, I know. I mean, every single, uh, every single month in Adelaide is like a, uh, either a world... Like a once in a 50-year event.

  9. Alex Antic· Guest0:38

    Mm.

  10. Sam Bamford· Host0:38

    You know, I used to work at this, uh, cement factory back in the day, and I used to be the, the safety manager there. And all the operators used to tell me every single month, they're like, "Ah, this is a once in a lifetime operation that's happening here." And it's like, 'cause there used to be events every single week, like safety incidents.

  11. Alex Antic· Guest0:54

    Mm.

  12. Sam Bamford· Host0:55

    "Once in a lifetime. Once in a lifetime."

  13. Alex Antic· Guest0:56

    Mm.

  14. Sam Bamford· Host0:56

    "Once in a lifetime." Now it's happening with our government.

  15. Alex Antic· Guest0:58

    Mm.

  16. Sam Bamford· Host0:58

    And like, oh, Jesus, how did we get here?

  17. Alex Antic· Guest1:00

    Yeah. It's like in, in politics that you, every time you s- if you had the misfortune of sitting there in Canberra and listening to the prattle that comes out of that building, you would hear the word unprecedented every time.

  18. Sam Bamford· Host1:09

    Mm.

  19. Alex Antic· Guest1:09

    It's always unprecedented. You know, "This is an unprecedented event."

  20. Sam Bamford· Host1:11

    Mm.

  21. Alex Antic· Guest1:12

    You know, I, I don't think anyone actually knows what the word means, but they use it a lot. It's- Well, like a, uh, fire at the, at one of the- Yeah ...

  22. Sam Bamford· Host1:18

    two, two lasting, uh, refineries during a fuel crisis.

  23. Alex Antic· Guest1:21

    Yeah. Yeah. It's been... Well, I mean, I've been watching it as well. I- we were talking about this before and, um, it's, it... look, it's hard to know. Uh, we, we can't just jump down the,

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