#62 Stefano
10/16/202534 min
On her flight to emigrate from Italy in 1959, Anita was tasked with babysitting a two-year-old boy being brought to the US for adoption. During the flight, Anita fell in love with the child, and for the rest of her life, she wondered what became of him.
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First 90 secondsJonathan Goldstein· Host0:00
[intro music] [pencil writing] Pushkin.
Kalila Holt0:06
[phone ringing] Hi, Johnny.
Jonathan Goldstein· Host0:15
Karen?
Kalila Holt0:15
Just in the grocery store.
Jonathan Goldstein· Host0:16
I'm, I'm, I'm sorry to be intruding like this, you know, just calling up out of the- [beeping] Oh, hi. Oh, hi.
Kalila Holt0:24
Sorry, my mom called on the other line and I- [laughs] So then you just, you just drop whoever you're talking to? That's the kind of daughter I am.
Jonathan Goldstein· Host0:31
Not very professional, but okay.
Kalila Holt0:33
[laughs] Oh, is this a business call?
Jonathan Goldstein· Host0:37
Yes, [laughs] it actually is.
Kalila Holt0:39
[laughs] Okay, yeah.
Jonathan Goldstein· Host0:41
Well, because, you know, you're a, you're a dear friend of Jackie, so I thought maybe, you know, I would turn to you, I, I, uh, with my concern. I, I've been trying to call Jackie, and she doesn't seem to be accepting my phone calls.
Kalila Holt0:52
Um, yeah, no. Yeah, I can confirm that she's okay.
Jonathan Goldstein· Host0:57
Okay.
Kalila Holt0:58
And, um, I can- Oh, that's good.
Jonathan Goldstein· Host0:59
Thank, whew, thank God.
Kalila Holt1:00
Yeah, I can confirm that, and I can confirm that, um, she's annoyed by your persistence. That I can confirm.
Jonathan Goldstein· Host1:12
Okay.
Kalila Holt1:13
And it's ... I, I don't know. I don't know what to tell you. Maybe she just feels that you're using her.
Jonathan Goldstein· Host1:19
Well, I am.
Kalila Holt1:20
[laughs] Well, maybe she doesn't like that.
Jonathan Goldstein· Host1:24
Yeah, because she wants to be the user, right?
Kalila Holt1:27
That's an excellent point you've got there.