6. Charlie Flores vs. Charles Don Flores

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Michelle Pitcher· Host0:29

Back in October 2025, I drove about four hours to the Polunsky Unit. It's the prison where men on death row are held in Texas. It's in a town called Livingston. The drive is beautiful, but sometimes harrowing. On multiple occasions, I've been caught in sudden thunderstorms that force everyone on the road to slow to 10 miles an hour or risk veering off the two-lane highway into the piney woods. I was going to meet Charles Flores for the first time. I had already done a good deal of research and reporting on his case, but I was essentially a random person off the streets. He didn't know much about me, but I knew a lot about him. I knew what he was accused of, and I'd read about his criminal history and time on the run. The man who sat across from me was not at all who I expected, but then again, people rarely are.

Charles Flores· Guest1:22

Well, I'm just messing with you. Giving you a hard time.

Michelle Pitcher· Host1:24

[laughs] At this point, Charles had agreed to talk with me once, but he didn't know what