563. “Something Non-Human Has Been Here A Long Time” | Dr. Garry Nolan
7/17/20251 hr 29 min
Dr. Jordan B. Peterson interviews Stanford professor and prolific biotech entrepreneur Dr. Garry Nolan, covering the cutting-edge of cancer research and atomic-level imaging as well as his work with the U.S. government on anomalous health effects linked to unidentified aerial phenomena (UAPs). Nolan explains how his scientific curiosity—and integrity—led him from debunking the infamous Atacama “alien” mummy to analyzing bizarre materials and biological effects tied to UAP encounters. Artificial intelligence, intuition, consciousness, and the blurry line between science fiction and scientific frontier, culminate in Nolan’s provisional belief: “something non-human has been here a long time.” This episode was filmed on July 7th, 2025 | Links | For Dr. Garry Nolan: On X https://x.com/garrypnolan?lang=en
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First 90 secondsGarry Nolan· Guest0:00
(instrumental music plays) I'm a professor in the Department of Pathology at Stanford.
Jordan B. Peterson· Host0:03
It's pretty obvious that you have a, a multitude of abilities and a stellar track record. You started to become interested in unidentified aerial phenomena.
Garry Nolan· Guest0:14
Somebody representing the CIA and an aerospace company showing up at my office at Stanford, showed me their credentials and said, "We need your help looking at patients who have had harm done to them." And then a small subset of them said that they'd been in proximity to things that you would call a UFO. I thought it was a joke at the beginning.
Jordan B. Peterson· Host0:34
"Let us know if you would, what the hell you think is going on."
Garry Nolan· Guest0:39
(laughs) That there's something non-human here, and it's been here for a long time.
Jordan B. Peterson· Host0:42
Well, I imagine it's put a bit of a bump into your life. I mean, maybe one that's mostly interesting, but still, to call it strange is to barely scrape the surface.
Garry Nolan· Guest0:51
If something is here, it's likely been here longer than humans have even been civilized.
Jordan B. Peterson· Host0:56
(instrumental music plays) Dr. Garry Nolan is an immunologist, academic, inventor, and biotech entrepreneur, serial biotech entrepreneur. He's a professor at Stanford University School of Medicine, and somewhat surprisingly, a ufologist. We talked about his career, his research interests,